End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

some people have such far out ideas....they are so afriad a woman might win a soul...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...eply&p=1300338

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

For many years I worked at a lonely leper colony and over time knew all the folks there...One Sunday we were going to have a baptismal service...not like you do in the USA...but most of them we laid in a sheet and lowed them into a special made tank...this certain morning a doctor called me in and said, Missionary is your church going to baptize so and so. I said yes...he said please be careful with her legs...(we wrapped them in plastic)

Many of the "untouchable outcasts" became first class citizens of heaven....

I sat in the home of a witch doctor also a leper and told him about Jesus...both he and his wife Isabela had the dreaded disease...After telling him why I was at the colony he asked me if our religion had been around a very long...

Shame on those that would try to close anyone's mouth... We are all commanded to Go into all the world and preach....the Lord himself gave the orders...

No, my brothers you would have done so much better than me...I am so sure of that...however rejoice that a few of your earth brother's have been made into His likness...

Our baptisms there left blood in the water many times...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...eply&p=1300600

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

It stands to reason if women had not taken the goodnews to the men they might still be in hiding...lol...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...eply&p=1300708

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

tonight Bro. Alvear and I have been asked to be speakers at a marriage seminar...so the anti's would have a problem with that too.....
I have no problem with helping anyone...be it woman or man....black or white, rich or poor...
If you have a problem with a woman helping a soul you need to go back to Calvary and watch Him die...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...eply&p=1300709

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

sad that there are those that had rather someone not hear of Jesus than for a woman to tell them...

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...eply&p=1301608


Here are the quotes and the propagation of ...

it is shameful for a woman married to a missionary to tell other saints their pastor needs a trip to the altar because they oppose women preachers.

[MissBrattified]

If a woman is scripturally allowed to prophesy (essentially making her a "prophetess"), under what circumstances is she allowed to follow the prompting of the Holy Ghost and utter forth the prophecy? Is prophesying exempt from the keeping silent in the church "mandate?"

The word "prophesy" (prophēteuō) from Acts 2:18 is defined in Strong's as follows:

to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict to prophesy with the idea of foretelling future events pertaining esp. to the kingdom of God to utter forth, declare, a thing which can only be known by divine revelation to break forth under sudden impulse in lofty discourse or praise of the divine counsels under like prompting, to teach, refute, reprove, admonish, comfort others to act as a prophet, discharge the prophetic office

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

If a woman is scripturally allowed to prophesy (essentially making her a "prophetess"), under what circumstances is she allowed to follow the prompting of the Holy Ghost and utter forth the prophecy? Is prophesying exempt from the keeping silent in the church "mandate?"

The word "prophesy" (prophēteuō) from Acts 2:18 is defined in Strong's as follows:

to prophesy, to be a prophet, speak forth by divine inspirations, to predict to prophesy with the idea of foretelling future events pertaining esp. to the kingdom of God to utter forth, declare, a thing which can only be known by divine revelation to break forth under sudden impulse in lofty discourse or praise of the divine counsels under like prompting, to teach, refute, reprove, admonish, comfort others to act as a prophet, discharge the prophetic office

These dudes have "home grown" definitions for things. And go figure... those definitions suit their interpretation. lol

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

These dudes have "home grown" definitions for things. And go figure... those definitions suit their interpretation. lol

LOL - Let's see, we've appealed to the Greek texts themselves (even posting the actual morphology), leading grammarians & textual critics, careful exegesis, specific syntactical considerations, historical quotes, & the plain readings of the biblical texts - combining hundreds of professional linguists.


Yea', really "home-grown" !

[Aquila]

Instead of debating a brother ad nauseam on the subject... I'll simply post a link to a an open letter (in .pdf) that covers this topic very well...

http://frankviola.org/role.pdf

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Instead of debating a brother ad nauseam on the subject... I'll simply post a link to a an open letter (in .pdf) that covers this topic very well...

http://frankviola.org/role.pdf

Ahhhh yes, good ol' Frank Viola & his horrid information. You should be plumb embarrassed that you even appealed to his writings - they are easily proven erroneous (in fact, I eventually just quit reading his book it was so terrible).


You really could use some classes in the discipline of critical analysis !

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by rdp

Ahhhh yes, good ol' Frank Viola & his horrid information. You should be plumb embarrassed that you even appealed to his writings - they are easily proven erroneous (in fact, I eventually just quit reading his book it was so terrible).


You really could use some classes in the discipline of critical analysis !

Amen!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by rdp

Ahhhh yes, good ol' Frank Viola & his horrid information. You should be plumb embarrassed that you even appealed to his writings - they are easily proven erroneous (in fact, I eventually just quit reading his book it was so terrible).


You really could use some classes in the discipline of critical analysis !

Hey, now, Frank isn't that bad. What elements of his work did you find most erroneous? I'm interested to hear what you've found. I'm not above taking a step back to take a second look at something. I could learn something I didn't know.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by rdp

Ahhhh yes, good ol' Frank Viola & his horrid information. You should be plumb embarrassed that you even appealed to his writings - they are easily proven erroneous (in fact, I eventually just quit reading his book it was so terrible).


You really could use some classes in the discipline of critical analysis !

I tried to read that fiction and it was very hard to get through it. So far it has been full of nothing but emotional appeals and ad-hominem attacks.

The author of that claptrap states that all interpretations of those two "limiting" scriptures, which according to him are obscucre LOL!, have shortcomings and he admits his own does a swell. But before stating that the author pompously declares his word is the final word. What a pompous blowhard!

The fact is there is nothing obscure about those passages, except to those who refuse to acknowledge their existence. They are in perfect harmony with the other scriptures that state clearly an elder or bishop are to be husbands of 1 wife. They also harmonize with the ministry of Jesus Christ who could have called any woman he wanted but instead chose 12 men. Additionally it harmonizes with the entirety of scripture which multitudes have refused to acknowledge.

The author also tried to say the Law was abolished which in fact it is not. Jesus fulfilled the Law and states emphatically that I came NOT to destroy the Law (Mt. 5:17). Paul even said that love is the fulfilling of the Law (Gal. 4:14). Are we to believe that we are not to love since according to that author the Law was abolished? Also, if it was abolished why did God say He would write it upon our hearts (Jer. 31:31-33). In other words the author has no idea what he is talking about. He simply WANTS women to be able to be elders...

Yeah it is difficult to read the claptrap.

[Aquila]

I'd like to share something to help clarify what I'm saying. I was taught the following about "preaching"...

Preaching: 2782 // khrugma // kerugma // kay'-roog-mah //

from 2784 ; TDNT - 3:714,430; n n

AV - preaching 8; 8

1) that which is proclaimed by a herald or public crier, a
proclamation by herald
2) in the NT the message or proclamation of the heralds of God or
Christ

"Preaching" is therefore a general and all encompassing term for a NT message, or proclamation, that may include any or all of the following:

Prophesy
Teaching
Admonition
Rebuke
Exhortation
Testimony

With this in mind, in a preacher's "preaching" they might prophesy, teach, admonish, rebuke, testify, and/or exhort. Technically one can even give a witness while "preaching", seeing that any one of these elements "witness" to Christ's gospel, power, doctrine, or authority. A preacher's "preaching" might include any one of these elements... or even all of them.

Thus, if a woman can be permitted to "prophesy" in the gathering ...her "prophesying" is indeed a form of "preaching" and is perfectly permissible.

Do you disagree with this? If so, share what you were taught.