End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

The Bible describes Deborah, a woman speaking the words of God, giving commands to a man who was apparently enough of a leader that he could raise an army of ten thousand men.

[Sister Alvear]

Women are not subject to all men...women are subject to their husbands...their fathers...

[Sister Alvear]

Remember the story of Huldah? She gave the word of the Lord to both kings and priests...Huldah was commenting on the meaning of the Scriptures and predicting the future, giving an authoritative message from God. She was quite a lady....

[rdp]

Originally Posted by shazeep

absent a direct quote, "And she did not teach men Scripture," how can you say this? I can tell you how you are 100%, verified, incorrect here, RDP; and so could a little kid. why get beneath yourself

Umm, I can say it because the Scriptures do NOT say it! I speak where the Scriptures speak & am silent where the Scriptures are silent - simple.


The onus is on you or anyone else to demonstrate where Deborah expounded from the Scriptures to men:__________?

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

she gave them directions and orders from the Lord....How do you know what she gave them? Were you in the lines of people that came to her for a word from the Lord?

Ummm, of course prophecy is a word from the Lord (IF it's TRUE prophecy) - but it is NOT a didactic message from the Scriptures in the sense that you desperately attempt to make it - for about the 100th time now .

[Sister Alvear]

In the New Testament we learn of other women who spoke the word of God. Mary sang praises that are now in Scripture (Luke 1:46-55). Anna was a prophetess (Luke 2:36-38). After Jesus was resurrected, he appeared to some women and gave them a message: "The women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples.

"Suddenly Jesus met them. `Greetings,' he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. Then Jesus said to them, `Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me' " (Matthew 28:8-10).


Strange Jesus would tell the women...go tell the men....if there were something wrong with a woman carrying God's message....
Jesus has no problem with women delivering commands to men. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. He gave them that authority by giving them the message, and in doing so, these women were speaking the words of the Lord. Jesus expected the men to listen to the women and obey the command they delivered.

The GO YE command was given to every believer...GO YE into all the world and preach....

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

[COLOR="Blue"][B]I can say it because the Scriptures do NOT say it! I speak where the Scriptures speak & am silent where the Scriptures are silent...

wow, i must be tireder than i thot, cuz this reads as a direct dichotomy, imo. nite all

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

And she did not exposit from the Scriptures to men either - for about the 100th time now .


*Sigh*......

But was she in a position of authority/leadership over men?

[Sister Alvear]

Back to Deborah...

And Deborah, a PROPHETESS, the wife of Lapidoth, SHE JUDGED ISRAEL at that time. And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and bethel in mount Ephriam and the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL CAME UP TO HER FOR JUDGEMENT." (judges 4:4)



Now what do you thinks she told them? Some novel? Some comic story? No she gave them the word of the Lord...she had to have taught them for her reign brought 40 years of peace....

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Deborah was a prophetess and a judge, and in both roles she spoke the word of God. Her role was not just a one-time event, but an ongoing responsibility. The people came to her for leadership on a regular basis—and there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that anyone thought it was unusual for a woman to perform this role. She was simply the most qualified person, and people accepted that.

Actually, many scholars believe it was to Israel's shame that a woman was a Judge & indicates their moral depravity (regardless, she did not expound from the Scriptures to men):


http://members.iinet.net.au/~jvd/articles/debbarak.htm


http://cbmw.org/uncategorized/the-wo...ss-of-deborah/

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The Bible describes Deborah, a woman speaking the words of God, giving commands to a man who was apparently enough of a leader that he could raise an army of ten thousand men.

Ummm, okay - And??

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Women are not subject to all men...women are subject to their husbands...their fathers...

Well, until they get to church - then the roles can automatically flip !

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Remember the story of Huldah? She gave the word of the Lord to both kings and priests...Huldah was commenting on the meaning of the Scriptures and predicting the future, giving an authoritative message from God. She was quite a lady....

Specifically where does this - or any other - text state that Huldah expounded from the Scriptures brought to her:__________?


Amazingly, Huldah refuses to expound upon the very Scriptures that were brought to her - but she did powerfully operate in the gift of prophecy - which is exactly what women are free to practice (if it's the real thing & not some foolishness {& that goes for men or women}).

[Sister Alvear]

Do you preach from Deborah's song? Would that not be wrong to preach from a song a woman wrote?

Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam. Then he made him that remaineth have dominion over the nobles among the people: the LORD made me have dominion over the mighty.