End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Esther]

Originally Posted by RJR

And still not one qualification for the ministry that says, she must be the wife of one husband. However, for a widow to be taken into the number this qualification was given.

Isn't it interesting, not one female priest, not one female Apostle chosen by the Lord, not one qualification that was female specific for deacons and bishops. I guess you folks think this was an oversight of the Holy Ghost.

Well keep on looking and tell me which one was a gentile, if you want to go that route.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Esther

Well keep on looking and tell me which one was a gentile, if you want to go that route.

Would the qualifications change based on nationality? Again not one female priest, not one female apostle chosen by The Lord, not one female gender specific qualification for a bishop or deacon. Those who want to use every command given in the Bible for ministry as being for both men and women, is it now ok for a woman to be the husband of one wife? God sure set the participation of women in the ministry back by not giving any gender specific qualification for a female deacon or bishop.

By the way God did give specific qualifications for a gender in regards to deacons and bishops and not one qualification for a specific culture in the ministry. Neither did he say that one culture should keep silence in the church, or not to usurp authority over another culture, as he did the genders. Maybe look for another objection, this one is not working.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I have tried to be kind but this is stupid.
How many times has it been said that everyone should seek to win the lost and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit? Too many to count!

This is another object lesson as to why women should not try to feed the flock of God. This reliance upon appeals to emotion is shameful. It is a poor attempt at castigating men that have taken a stand for the word of God. It is a poor attempt to paint them as unconcerned about souls and is nothing short of a lie. Please document where anyone said a woman should not witness about Jesus.

Exactly! She & the others on here have been both shown & told this over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over..........& OVER!


What do they do? What "women-preachers" always do - ignore the grammar, context, syntax, exegesis, & plain biblical facts - & stubbornly plod along with their fingers in their ears.


It's called "gentle rebellion" & "sweet defiance" to God's Word (I realize you already know this) .

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Are you saying GOD did not call me?

No M'aam, I did not say it - God said it in His Word!


God has called all people to win the lost - & certainly may have called you to reach for the lost people of Brazil.

But, no, God has never called ANY WOMAN to "preach-teach" to men within the church - or to be in leadership roles over men within the church (& those that do so are out of their God-given place)....He already said so in His Word !

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Would you mind documenting this assertion? It is patently false. The women were in the synagogue as well as men. The difference is the synagogue was divided into a men's section and a women's section. Thus the whole this was "new for them" is patently false.

Exactly! When I read that assertion I just shook my head - once again they reveal they don't know what on earth they're talking about....As Carl Ballestero used to say, "Contented Delusion" .

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Pliny

How absolutely judgmental of you. Do you know me? Do you know RDP? How about the multitudes of other Men of God who do not believe in women preachers? How then can you say we are NOT men of prayer? You can't. Just another example of why women should never be allowed to feed the flock of God. Their doctrine and judgments rest upon appeals to emotion rather than the exegesis of scripture. This is where false doctrine finds a fertile soil.


Very astute observation. She is just as willfully ignorant as the rest of them (& this is not the first time she's demonstrated her ignorance of biblical matters).


Shall we start naming the many great men of God who do not believe in "women-preachers-teachers"....Kinda' like the Apostle Paul !


Poor ol' "prayer-less Paul" !





No wonder the only woman teacher of a flock is found in Revelation:

(Rev 2:18 KJV) And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
(Rev 2:19 KJV) I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
(Rev 2:20 KJV) Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by RJR

Would the qualifications change based on nationality? Again not one female priest, not one female apostle chosen by The Lord, not one female gender specific qualification for a bishop or deacon. Those who want to use every command given in the Bible for ministry as being for both men and women, is it now ok for a woman to be the husband of one wife? God sure set the participation of women in the ministry back by not giving any gender specific qualification for a female deacon or bishop.

By the way God did give specific qualifications for a gender in regards to deacons and bishops and not one qualification for a specific culture in the ministry. Neither did he say that one culture should keep silence in the church, or not to usurp authority over another culture, as he did the genders. Maybe look for another objection, this one is not working.

[Sister Alvear]

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. A certain man ...her husband....however you do not see it that way...
the very word usurp...to take by force....No godly woman would ever try to tell her husband what to do...or run the household by force...lol...

Now pray tell me how I have sinned and if I have sinned (disobeyed the Bible) according to you...how can I be saved? He called me and I only answered...

How could walking though a pagan village gathering up men and women telling the stoy of Jesus be taking by force or ruling as you call it over men?


note> 1 Timothy 2:12, in which Paul states "I do not suffer (permit) a woman to teach, or usurp authority over a man." In interpreting this verse, it is important to remember that the Greek words for "man" and "husband," as well as the words for "woman" and "wife," are the same. In the very next verse Paul refers back to Adam being formed first, then Eve. From all indications, this passage is, by context, referring to the marriage relationship, not the church. Paul is not saying that men cannot learn from women. Rather, he is simply stating that women are not to be manipulative or domineering over their husbands. There is a big difference....

[Sister Alvear]

I Timothy 2:11-12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived in the transgression. Now we read what the above scripture says, but what does it really say? When we look up the word woman in the Strong's Concordance we find that this use of "women" is Strong's number 1135, The definition of this use of woman is "wife.”
When we look up the word "man" we find that it is Strong's number 435, this use of man means "husband. "Now if we insert the correct use of the word woman and man the passage now reads as follows: "Let the wife learn in silence with all subjection, But I suffer not a wife to teach, nor to usurp authority over the husband, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the wife being deceived in the transgression. "We must be careful to make sure the translation that we read is what is really being said.

[Sister Alvear]

I am copying (what my friend hates) from my Portuguese Bible...A mulher aprenda em silêncio, com toda a sujeição.
Não permito, porém, que a mulher ensine, nem use de autoridade sobre o marido, mas que esteja em silêncio.
Porque primeiro foi formado Adão, depois Eva.
E Adão não foi enganado, mas a mulher, sendo enganada, caiu em transgressão.

1 Timóteo 2:11-14 the red says I do not permit a woman to teach or use authority over her husband but to be in silence...

It has nothing to do with church...but the husband and wife situation...