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Old 01-30-2014, 12:09 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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I did not say I was teaching young ones I said I was teaching people..a Bible class of men and women with very little education...Yes, I am teaching Bible and helping them (many of them) learn to read and write...and it is the church!
And what on earth does this have to do with what the "Bible" says about women teaching men in church?? Any appeal other than the Bible 'eh??


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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

Well, I happen to be teaching in the church...and half of my students are men...so...
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Have I ever commanded you? I only remember commanding the devil to come out of a person...lol...you are taking this to extremes....I am not even the commanding type...
I know you are not the commanding type.
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I've never understood men who made it their life's mission to get women out of the pulpit and off the platform. They should worry about their own wives, daughters, mothers and sisters and leave all the other women to submit to their own authorities. Do you fear for Sister Alvear's soul?

No Christian should ever have to defend their calling to other Christians. It's between them and God. Even if a woman did "misunderstand" her calling and what it entailed, if she spent her entire life working for the kingdom of God and doing everything in her power to accomplish His purpose, do you really think God is not going to honor her? And, further, do you think He is going to bless people who dishonor such women?
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Well, I happen to be teaching in the church...and half of my students are men...so...
So you are living contrary to clear God-breathed Scripture despite your copy-paste jobs !
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I've never understood men who made it their life's mission to get women out of the pulpit and off the platform. They should worry about their own wives, daughters, mothers and sisters and leave all the other women to submit to their own authorities. Do you fear for Sister Alvear's soul?

No Christian should ever have to defend their calling to other Christians. It's between them and God. Even if a woman did "misunderstand" her calling and what it entailed, if she spent her entire life working for the kingdom of God and doing everything in her power to accomplish His purpose, do you really think God is not going to honor her? And, further, do you think He is going to bless people who dishonor such women?

You mean "men" like the Apostle Paul ?


Second, I have already said that God will obviously be her Judge in eternity, but we (my fellowship) cannot & will not fellowship such stubborn defiance to God's word via I Tim. 2; 3; etc., etc.


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Gotta' run - still feeling sick. Be back in a bit to address some of Sis. Alvear's latest grammatical errors from I Tim. 3 .
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

The brothers don't seem to mind me helping them...lot's of them call me Mom...I love all my students very much...many many of our people I have taught to read...
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

I think our brother has brought this down to a personal level...sorry he is not a debater but and attacker...
I have already said I have many friends that see women preachers in many different lights however we are not on attack mode and sure not insinuating derogatory remarks about their character.
I am fine in their presence...those that REALLY know me know I don't even like to get up before a crowd...
I have no stones to throw...and have been watching my oven and the things we are cooking...gotta go help decorate now.
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[COLOR="Blue"]You mean "men" like the Apostle Paul ?
At least he only made one remark about women teaching and didn't harp on it for pages on end. Also, what bothers me about I Timothy 2:12 for the application you want is that it doesn't say, "The Lord suffers not"; it says, "I suffer not...." Paul was referring to himself and his own preferences, which was largely influenced by the culture at the time.

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Second, I have already said that God will obviously be her Judge in eternity, but we (my fellowship) cannot & will not fellowship...
Which fellowship do you belong to?

Hopefully, in order to be consistent with your application of scripture, you don't allow any pastors into your fellowship who:

lack self-control
behave indecorously
hit people (including their wives)
like to argue
are greedy
impatient
fight
love money
don't manage their house well

Scripture is more clear about those things than it is about the idea of women teaching, (and mentions them in multiple places) so I do hope your fellowship has a rigorous vetting process for the men who want to be included.

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...such stubborn defiance to God's word via I Tim. 2; 3; etc., etc
Stubborn defiance to God's Word? She is obviously acting according to her own understanding of scripture and her calling, and, more importantly, as a team with her husband. More like stubborn defiance of men other than her husband who think they're in a position to tell her what to do.
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