End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Your compass is badly BROKEN

Apparently you don't know the diff between the Offices in the Ministry; the ministering of the
Church to the Church through the gifts of the Holy Spirit; or the ministry of the Church to the lost.

Different Brethren have spoken truth ntpo you on this thread, and you have chosen to stop your
ears and close your eyes: spewing words out of context with content.

Amen, and amen

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It's women teaching men that's wrong. So you're incorrect about saying there's no difference between men and women in ministry. Paul said there was and used the first man and woman as his basis . There's an issue of truth in regards to a woman who was deceived. .. led from truth. ... that moved Paul to say that. It seems your conclusions contradict Paul, which makes you say you can't understand that point he made. Just find a solution by obviously changing your conclusions to one that allows for all he said. Not some of his words. Women can teach, just other women, but not men.

Teach youth and kids. Just not men. I see no problem there.

Prophesying is not teaching. It's inspired speaking. Teaching is instructing spiritual living.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

I probably passed my hermeneutics class prior to your birth. But, yes, I do blur my hermeneutics with my exegesis.

*Ummm, I'll soon be 48 years old. You must be getting some age on ya' 'eh? Do they know you're up past light-out-time at the retirement center ?

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Titus passage is parallel to the Timothy passage. Therefore, comparing the two has merit. The role of women in the use of spiritual gifts in the church is also of merit. That is why I compare prophesying with teaching. They are both public oral gifts. Both are affected by the "silent" rule of 1 Tim. 2:12.

*Actually, as the exegesis provided above notes (& you completely ignored), the "parallel passage" is found in I Corinthians 14.34-35 - not Titus (there's not even a syntactical parallel between the two to my knowledge?).


*And, for about the 50th time on this thread, prophecy is not - nor will it ever be - a "didactic sermon" from the Scriptures. If you took Greek you should know this (but, considering that you had a female professor....).

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

I try not to present my academic background online. If my ideas have merit, it does not matter who I am.

*I agree with this .

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by rdp

*And, for about the 50th time on this thread, prophecy is not - nor will it ever be - a "didactic sermon" from the Scriptures. If you took Greek you should know this (but, considering that you had a female professor....).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

HELPS Word-studies

Cognate: 2271 hēsyxía (from hēsyxos, "quiet, stillness") – quietness, implying calm; for the believer, 2271 (hēsyxía) is used of their God-produced calm which includes an inner tranquility that supports appropriate action. This term "does not mean speechlessness, which is more directly indicated by 4602 (sigḗ) (J. Thayer). See 2272 (hēsyxios).

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[Scott Pitta]

If women are to remain silent, they cannot prophecy. If women are to remain silent, they cannot teach women. Silence is silence.

But since Paul teaches that women can prophecy and that women can teach, then the "silent" rule must mean something else. Since it is the only place it is mentioned in the entire NT, it is difficult to understand what Paul meant.

[rdp]

*Below is the lexical data on the infinitive verb translated "to teach" (didaskein) in I Timothy 2.12:


In the NT, 1321/didáskō ("teach") nearly always refers to teaching the Scriptures (the written Word of God). The key role teaching Scripture has in life is shown by its great frequency in the NT and variety of word-forms (cognates).

[This includes three noun forms, two adjectival forms, and one verb – totaling about 220 occurrences in the NT).]


*This is what women were forbidden to do in the church (cf. I Tim. 3.15).


*Okay - Been fun. God Bless.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

If women are to remain silent, they cannot prophecy. If women are to remain silent, they cannot teach women. Silence is silence.

But since Paul teaches that women can prophecy and that women can teach, then the "silent" rule must mean something else. Since it is the only place it is mentioned in the entire NT, it is difficult to understand what Paul meant.

Do you have me on ignore?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

If women are to remain silent, they cannot prophecy. If women are to remain silent, they cannot teach women. Silence is silence.

But since Paul teaches that women can prophecy and that women can teach, then the "silent" rule must mean something else. Since it is the only place it is mentioned in the entire NT, it is difficult to understand what Paul meant.

It's qualified by not usurping authority over men. Not silent in other areas of speaking.

[Scott Pitta]

Paul had many regular themes in his books. Several subjects are covered repeatedly. No other person in the NT mentions the "silent" rule. Paul only mentions it once.

Must not have been important to the Holy Spirit.