End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Now, be careful what you post because you are going to have to backtrack now. Women were elders and leaders as well. I'm sure you are now going to show where Paul exempted men from obeying them, right?

LOL - Say WHAT??? Women "Elders" ?


You must a' found that in the book of I-Say-It ? Unless, you try the ol' Sarah canard from Heb. 11 (if you do - you will get embarrassed). Guess you gals just make things up as you go along !


Hilarious - Well, sad really.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

This is what is making some of the men speak from both sides of their mouths. They speak against Sis. Alvear for preaching, then say it's ok for women to preach they just can't preach in church. They one says a pulpit has nothing to do with it when the other says women can't be behind one. Sis. Alvear has stated over and over that she's not a preacher and they tell her she doesn't know the difference.

Makes my head spin for sure. I'm thankful for a preacher who says what he means and means what he says.

Thank you for once again demonstrating that women, apparently all who have posted here, cannot discern the difference between feeding the flock (Acts 20) and witnessing.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by rdp

Is is very likely that the earth will be reduced to ashes & Lucifer will be baptized in Jesus' name before she, or anyone else, can show you the passage where a woman expounds to a congregation of men !

There is ONE passage:

(Rev 2:20 KJV) Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

(Rev 2:21 KJV) And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
(Rev 2:22 KJV) Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
(Rev 2:23 KJV) And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
(Rev 2:24 KJV) But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

[Roxanne Murphy]

Originally Posted by RJR

Originally, he is talking to the eleven, and there was not a woman among them. Mat. 28:16

And did He then give the eleven immortality sonthatbthey might continue to fulfill this task? Or did He, through the baptism of His Spirit, bring Jew and Greek, male and female, bond and free, into this one new body, where the Apostle Peter quoted the prophet Joel on the birthday if the church that He would pour out of His spirit upon all flesh (servants and handmaidens) and they would prophesy?

I cannot say I surprised by the answers I have gotten from the defenders if the anti woman preacher heresy. It is true to form for those who pull a scripture or two completely out of context, create a doctrine, then either translate the rest of scripture with that doctrine as a guide or just not reference some passages of scripture that don't fit the heresy.

You, Mr. RJR (too afraid to be known for who you are out here in cyberspace), make comments about those who disagree with you using 'trinitarian' references, yet those who believe the same as you have done likewise.

Sasha is right, you brethren are talking out of both sides of your mouths. It is the only way you can maintain some semblance of 'standing for truth' in the face of extensive scripture that disputes your pet doctrine contrived from a couple verses taken out of context.

There are entire congregations that began with the preaching of the gospel by a woman called and empowered by God. These women did the work of an apostle by laying a foundation where no one else had laid one (as the apostle Paul said he did); then they built churches and established saints in the Word of God, then let a man come along and take over as pastor so they (the women preachers) could go out and plant another congregation and found another church, doing all of the hard work of a true apostle. Will you be so presumptuous as to tell the souls saved in these churches that the women who started their churches were out of order and maybe even that their salvation might be in jeopardy because of this? And no, that is not 'emotional appeal'. It is the end result of truly believing that women cannot be preachers and teachers of God's Word.

[Roxanne Murphy]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Thank you for once again demonstrating that women, apparently all who have posted here, cannot discern the difference between feeding the flock (Acts 20) and witnessing.

So your brother in the anti woman preacher school of theology, rdp, is also a woman who cannot discern the difference between feeding the flock and witnessing for he was very adamant that a woman should not be witnessing to a man but she should instead let another man take care of it. That was a very nice compliment for you to give him! Bravo! Well said!

[Sister Alvear]

I do not have access to my laptop..however quoting parts of what I said is out of context...oh well....those that know me know I have deep respect for the ministry and have written many books in Portuguese about these things....
Blessings to all...

[Sister Alvear]

I do not have access to my laptop..however quoting parts of what I said is out of context...oh well....those that know me know I have deep respect for the ministry and have written many books in Portuguese about these things....
Blessings to all...

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy

And did He then give the eleven immortality sonthatbthey might continue to fulfill this task? Or did He, through the baptism of His Spirit, bring Jew and Greek, male and female, bond and free, into this one new body, where the Apostle Peter quoted the prophet Joel on the birthday if the church that He would pour out of His spirit upon all flesh (servants and handmaidens) and they would prophesy?

I cannot say I surprised by the answers I have gotten from the defenders if the anti woman preacher heresy. It is true to form for those who pull a scripture or two completely out of context, create a doctrine, then either translate the rest of scripture with that doctrine as a guide or just not reference some passages of scripture that don't fit the heresy.

You, Mr. RJR (too afraid to be known for who you are out here in cyberspace), make comments about those who disagree with you using 'trinitarian' references, yet those who believe the same as you have done likewise.

Sasha is right, you brethren are talking out of both sides of your mouths. It is the only way you can maintain some semblance of 'standing for truth' in the face of extensive scripture that disputes your pet doctrine contrived from a couple verses taken out of context.

There are entire congregations that began with the preaching of the gospel by a woman called and empowered by God. These women did the work of an apostle by laying a foundation where no one else had laid one (as the apostle Paul said he did); then they built churches and established saints in the Word of God, then let a man come along and take over as pastor so they (the women preachers) could go out and plant another congregation and found another church, doing all of the hard work of a true apostle. Will you be so presumptuous as to tell the souls saved in these churches that the women who started their churches were out of order and maybe even that their salvation might be in jeopardy because of this? And no, that is not 'emotional appeal'. It is the end result of truly believing that women cannot be preachers and teachers of God's Word.

It would really be easy for you to prove your point. Show me where He ever commanded a woman to go out and teach and baptize. Show me one woman in 90 years of Biblical church history who ever baptized and again you have a point. The fact is, Jesus was commanding MEN upon whose teachings the New Testament church would rest in Mat 28:19. I cannot help it if it conflicts with your position, the facts are, Jesus never called a woman to be an Apostle, no women priest, not one Biblical qualification for a woman to be a deacon, or bishop. . And no where in Biblical history did a woman ever baptize. IF what Sis Alvear claims is true, over half of Paul's greetings were to women preachers, it looks like IF there were that many female preachers, someone must have disobeyed God

[Esther]

Originally Posted by rdp

There's nothing to "disagree" over - "women-teachers-preachers" in the church are in direct-willful conflict with God's crystal-clear Word....Period.

Obviously it is not so crystal clear or there would not be over a thousand post.

[Esther]

1 Cor 12-27-28. Does not specify a gender. When talking about the body and being appointed apostles, etc.