End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Scott Pitta]

So silent does not really mean silent. I have never heard that before.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

So silent does not really mean silent. I have never heard that before.

In the Greek as well as English it means to rest from movement or speech.

It is also translated as the English word "rest"

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I think in this discussion of women preachers, that we also need to look at how headship is abused, both by men and women alike.

Obviously, you can't read the book of Proverbs without being aware of the dangers of a loud, bossy woman who dominates everything.

But there is another side too, that is just as sad... and that is an authoritative man who thinks his wife and family are his servants, and who basically uses God's principles unjustly, and who rules with an iron fist, abusing and terrorizing his family.

Both sets of extremes are wrong, and cause terrible sadness and misery.

I hope those reading this thread realize that the kind of headship with husband and wife we are talking about, and the kind of leadership roles that males will lead in, does not give them the right to abuse that leadership position/role, whether it be as a husband, or as a leader, and to become authoritative, and demanding in their leadership.

The principle of Christ and the church applies so beautifully to how things should be... but human nature deviates very quickly to opposite ends of the spectrum, which has caused a bitter taste for many when seeing such roles abused.

Over 26 years ago a friend asked me these questions: “Do you want your wife to obey you? Do you want her to be in submission to you?” I answered him, “Of course; that’s what the Bible says she must do!” My friend responded, “So you want her to follow your leadership?” “Yes!” I responded. “Okay,” my friend smiled, “what does the Bible say you must be to be the ‘leader’ or the ‘greatest’ in God’s kingdom?” Oh, brother, I didn’t want to answer that and he knew it. He asked again, “What does the Word say?” I finally answered, “It says you must be the least of all.” “So then,” he said, “if you want her to obey you, you must first serve her.” I knew he was right because he had the Bible to back him up.

So, serving others is the key to having peace and Christian leadership in the home and in the church…and it is a man's responsibility to make it happen. This doesn't mean a man does not conduct themselves like a man. Instead, it means they conduct themselves as a man who’s led by Jesus Christ. (See Mat 20:27-28, Mat 23:11; Mark 9:35, Mark 10:44; Eph 5:25-28; Col 3:19; 1 Pet 3:7).

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

So silent does not really mean silent. I have never heard that before.

Bro. Benincasa didn't say silent doesn't mean silent. He said it is about how and why the silence is to be applied.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

So silent does not really mean silent. I have never heard that before.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In the Greek as well as English it means to rest from movement or speech.

It is also translated as the English word "rest"

Bolded underlined word is the same as used for "silent."

2 Thessalonians 3:12 KJV
(12) Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

2 Thessalonians 3:12 NLT
(12) We command such people and urge them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and work to earn their own living.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Bolded underlined word is the same as used for "silent."

2 Thessalonians 3:12 KJV
(12) Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

2 Thessalonians 3:12 NLT
(12) We command such people and urge them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and work to earn their own living.

With some who translate but check their work with a KJV and Strong's mindset, tend to lose word meaning of the Greek writers. Please Brother Pitta not saying you are in that category.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Y á los tales requerimos y rogamos por nuestro Señor Jesucristo, que, trabajando con reposo, coman su pan

[Evang.Benincasa]

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...up=h(su%2Fxios

Please Brother Pitta see how ἡσύχιος was used by some contemporaries of our Greek Bible?

[Evang.Benincasa]

And a wife to teach NOT commit to their care, nor to domineer a husband, but to be at REST. For Adam first was shaped, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the wife having been deceived, in violation has become. But she shall be PRESERVED through the childbearing, if they abide in belief, and love, and sanctification, with discreetness.

[Evang.Benincasa]

HELPS Word-studies
2272 hēsýxios (an adjective derived from hēsyxos, "quiet, stillness") – properly, quiet (still), i.e. steady (settled) due to a divinely-inspired inner calmness.

2272/hēsyxios ("calmly quiet") describes being "appropriately tranquil" by not misusing (or overusing) words that would stir up needless friction (destructive commotion).