End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

I have such a godly husband this has never been a problem for me...It is my duty as a chrisitian lady to submit to my husband...

[RJR]

So a woman can be over a congregation, and yet not exercise authority? If you answer in the affirmative, she can be over, obviously she cannot be over her husband. You are faced with a conundrum, she cannot be over her husband and yet can be over another woman's husband.

[Aquila]

There is a difference between a woman preaching under an elder's authority and a woman being an elder.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am copying (what my friend hates) from my Portuguese Bible...A mulher aprenda em silêncio, com toda a sujeição.
Não permito, porém, que a mulher ensine, nem use de autoridade sobre o marido, mas que esteja em silêncio.
Porque primeiro foi formado Adão, depois Eva.
E Adão não foi enganado, mas a mulher, sendo enganada, caiu em transgressão.

1 Timóteo 2:11-14 the red says I do not permit a woman to teach or use authority over her husband but to be in silence...

It has nothing to do with church...but the husband and wife situation...

And once again you reveal your stubborn & willful ignorance. I have shown you over & over & over & over & over & over that the context, syntax, exegesis, & plain translation demonstrates that the passage is absolutely NOT talking about the "marriage relationship" - & Paul explicitly stated that he was writing Timothy regarding church-order .


It has EVERYTHING to do with church-order - you simply refuse to allow the text to stand on its own merits. Shame, shame!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Even if I cor. meant what my friend says it means he still is wrong for the word women is NOT women in general but married women or wifes....


Under no circumstances does the injunction of Paul in 1 Cor. 14:34 indicate that women should not utter a word at any time during the church service…Furthermore, the word gunaikes (1135 in v. 34) should not be translated “women” in its generic sense, but as “wives.” It is wives who should submit (hupotassomai, 5293) to their own husbands (andras, 435, v. 35). The whole argument is not the subjection of women to men in general, but of wives to their own husbands in the family unit as ordained by God.

LOL - Yea', these translations alllllllll got it wrong - Surely they should have consulted the "women-preachers" first! Think you might have an agenda going on? LOL.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There is a difference between a woman preaching under an elder's authority and a woman being an elder.

Could you show us 1 Biblical passage where a woman was PREACHING from the scriptures, and it indicated they were doing so under an Elder's authority? If you cannot demonstrate what you speculate, it is simply undocumented speculation.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by RJR

Could you show us 1 Biblical passage where a woman was PREACHING from the scriptures, and it indicated they were doing so under an Elder's authority? If you cannot demonstrate what you speculate, it is simply undocumented speculation.

It is written....

Acts 2:16 - 2:18
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Daughters and handmaidens shall prophesy in the NT church. If a woman desires to do anything for the Lord, she may, under proper male authority.

Romans 16:1-2
1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant (deaconess) of the church which is at Cenchrea:
2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.

[Aquila]

It is written,

Titus 2:3 - The aged women likewise, that [they be] in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

[Aquila]

It is written,

1 Corinthians 11:5 - But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Why would Paul have a modesty standard regarding women being covered when prophesying in gatherings... if women were forbidden to speak, teach, or prophesy with men present???

[Aquila]

It is written...

Acts 21:8-9
8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

Four daughters who prophesied.