Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indict

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

that's idiotic and another emotional response. Nobody believes all cops are nice.

Prax it may be an emotional response; however, it is still true that there are way too many corrupt cops. They are posted all over YouTube. One instance was where a teenage girl kicked her shoe out of her cell and two grown cops beet her down, cameras don't lie. She was small and petite, one cop could've easily subdued her without throwing punches. I'll see if I can't find it for you.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Prax it may be an emotional response; however, it is still true that there are way too many corrupt cops. They are posted all over YouTube. One instance was where a teenage girl kicked her shoe out of her cell and two grown cops beet her down, cameras don't lie. She was small and petite, one cop could've easily subdued her without throwing punches. I'll see if I can't find it for you.

no the idiotic response was your "They think all cops are nice"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

Yes, blame the dead guy. I mean, he was black and a big man, so it must have been his fault.

Im really surprised and disappointment. Of all the people on this forum to ignore facts and make emotional responses, I never expected you to be one of them.

You sound like Aquila and JD now. You have the same mentality of everyone that responded to the Travon Martin and Michael Brown incident despite you having saw the evidence and checked your emotions to think rationally on THOSE issues

Why did you suddenly change to the subjective emotional position now?

His race is irrelevant. Or it SHOULD be.

However as far as fault goes. It's not his skin color or size...it's that he was breaking the law AND resisting arrest. He was combative from the beginning. That is his fault for the take down. That is what police do. They confront people who break the law and when they don't comply with requests, they take you down to subdue you. Ive seen it done to whites, Hispanics and blacks. Ive seen it down with skinny, fat and medium sized people

It's just a fact and you know that.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

It doesn't say he died resisting arrest. Doesn't say he died from being obese. Doesn't say he died from anything HE caused.

No it says He died from several contributing factor not all of which were the actions of one police officer

also it was not a chokehold. Chokehold don't go under the arm and around the neck. That is a submission move not a "cut off the windpipe" move

[BrotherEastman]

[n david]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Here it is. So what, she kicks her shoe at him and they do this??????? Emotional??? Yes, did she deserve that??? NO

Wow. That dude better be doing 5-10 in the pen.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by n david

Wow. That dude better be doing 5-10 in the pen.

One could only wish, but cops stick up for their own and he won't serve any time; this is why I think cops are thugs!

[n david]

Prax, I read this from day 1. Garner was not breaking the law when this cop assaulted him, causing his death. Check it out. There was NO crime being committed by Garner. He was simply a bystander when a fight broke out and even helped to break it up. His prior record caused these cops to harass him. He wasn't being threatening or resisting anything.

In fact, had Garner not been killed, he likely would have sued the cops for a civil rights violation - and won. Those cops had no business trying to arrest him.

And the cop who killed him has a record of his own for violating civil rights and wrongful arrests.

This is NOT Michael Brown or Trayvon Martin. If you can't figure out the difference, sorry. This guy was by all reports minding his own business when the cops singled him out for his prior record.

And for what....non-taxed cigarettes?!

I take my civil rights seriously, and when this happens, yes, I get angry. But there are plenty of legal minds who believe the same as I do.

And yes, race does play a factor. NYC's stop and frisk policy, the police beating of the black immigrant. NYPD has a nasty history of racial abuse. I guarantee you, had Garner been white, he would still be alive.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

Prax, I read this from day 1. Garner was not breaking the law when this cop assaulted him, causing his death.

Give me a link because all I read and all I can find is he was illegally selling "loosies" and they got a call

This cop did not cause his death. There was some other cops. The head hold did not damage his air pipe. He was not "unable to breath" until he was on his chest and someone was on his back

Ive posted several links to read pertaining to that and not once have you acknowledged that you read any

The cop did not assault him. He was placed under arrest and resisted

[Praxeas]

From the HuffPo...of all places

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6277790.html

The fatal encounter occurred in July after Pantaleo and other police officers responded to complaints about Garner, a heavyset 43-year-old father of six.