Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indict

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

but come on prax, lynchin cops is fun!!!!!!

Only the bad ones..........LOL

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by n david

Oh really? Where is the evidence? They've yet produced zilch.

This same cop is facing a lawsuit by two men for unlawful arrest, where the cop claimed the men possessed marijuana but didn't.

He's also been sued in other cases where the city paid a settlement.

This isn't a good cop.

Yeah, and when the cop might be in trouble, they are proned to human nature which is to LIE to get out of trouble.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

The cops seen him do it? Seriously? Cops always tell the truth don't they?

Eyewitnesses make good evidence.

An eyewitness that's a cop makes better evidence.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Eyewitnesses make good evidence.

An eyewitness that's a cop makes better evidence.

Thats funny.........No supporting evidence that he was selling cigarettes. The news I read said that he was suspected of selling them. Sorry, no eyewitnesses anywhere.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Thats funny.........No supporting evidence that he was selling cigarettes. The news I read said that he was suspected of selling them. Sorry, no eyewitnesses anywhere.

What kind of supporting evidence are you looking for?

Or let's approach it this way. What evidence would you require to admit the cops had probable cause to arrest the guy for selling loose cigs?

For me, if a cop says he saw someone doing something illegal that's enough in my mind that the guy should be arrested for that crime. The cop doesn't decide guilt or innocence though, that's up to the judge and/or jury. Being arrested is not the same thing as being guilty. I'm sure you understand the difference.

So what do you feel should be required before the police arrest a person?

[n david]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Thats funny.........No supporting evidence that he was selling cigarettes. The news I read said that he was suspected of selling them. Sorry, no eyewitnesses anywhere.

Right. And he was known because of his priors. So because he had a rap sheet selling "loosies" they suspected him of doing the same that day and wanted to arrest him.

A cop needs more than mere suspicion of illegal activity to make an arrest. Probable cause is needed, and in order for there to be probable cause, they have to either witness him selling or have him identified as someone selling.

I haven't read anything from the NYPD saying either happened. The death of Garner has overshadowed the details of the arrest, including the probable cause.

Again, the cop who choked him and shoved his head and neck into the ground has been sued before for unlawful arrest. And another suit was settled and monies paid for the cop breaking the law.

[n david]

Prax keeps saying it wasn't a chokehold, but rather an MMA-style "takedown" maneuver. Yet, here is Garner on the ground...and well, look, the cop clearly has him in a chokehold. You can see his arm is under the chin and against the neck of Garner.

First primary cause of death: "compression of the neck..."

The photo doesn't lie. People lie. But that still image isn't altered and does not lie.

You can claim it wasn't a chokehold all you want. Does. Not. Matter. what you claim. What matters is the evidence - in this case, a still image from a video taken during the struggle.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

Oh really? Where is the evidence? They've yet produced zilch.

This same cop is facing a lawsuit by two men for unlawful arrest, where the cop claimed the men possessed marijuana but didn't.

He's also been sued in other cases where the city paid a settlement.

This isn't a good cop.

Once again he was not the same cop that accused him of selling loosies..

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I didn't say it was about race, I just think the cop was a thug.

How should they have arrested a man resisting arrest?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Thats funny.........No supporting evidence that he was selling cigarettes. The news I read said that he was suspected of selling them. Sorry, no eyewitnesses anywhere.

No supporting evidence of intent to murder Eric