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Old 04-27-2015, 03:07 PM
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Re: will you know your loved ones in heaven

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Originally Posted by mfblume View Post
(1) I researched the Greek. We have to go to the Greek when defining word in the New Testament. Going solely to English, especially modern-day English will miss the mark, because the New Testament was written in Greek. English words usually convey .most of what we require, but for technical issues like this, we cannot stand solely on English without consulting a Greek lexicon.

(2) And the book of 1 Cor would have let us know that, anyway.

(3) Chapter 2 speaks of natural and spiritual believers. Chapter 10 speaks of spiritual meat and drink in the form of the water form the rock and the manna. In all cases they were very physical.

Did you research the Greek etymology of the term?
That's the problem, I believe. You are not realizing that "Spiritual" is not speaking of the composition of the body, but of what drives it.
You really need to check the Greek out concerning the issue. I have some notes I will provide from my research.

(1) Beloved, I understand what you’re saying. I realize that the English language (most
of the languages, actually) have changed even during the last 200 years, and must rely on
other means to get the true meaning of Bible Language. Therefore, I do not employ an
English language dictionary, except to get a better grip on what the words might mean to
me today, and as a comparison.

Ideally, I use a Strong’s Concordance and Greek/Hebrew linear Bible; then I also use an
English (KJV) and a Spanish (later version) bibles for comparison. I then pray and ask the
Lord to help me for proper context in the content.

(2) Yes, 1 Cor. 1:10, admonishes us to agree…yet not with each other, but
in the Lord. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,
saith the LORD.”
So our thoughts must conform to His thoughts, that our ways may
also become His ways: “…that you also may have fellowship with us…”.

(3) I can see that those who are “spiritual” will walk accordingly; while those who
are not, tend to wrestle with the lust of the flesh but still wanting to be considered
“spiritual”.
As for the water and the manna, they were in physical (natural) forms because the
Israelites were still in their physical (natural) forms. I believe we will NOT NEED physical
(natural) foods after we receive our new tabernacle (As you can see, I employ "physical"
and "natural" interchangeably).

As an after thought: the SPIRIT-man might be the natural man, having first been created;
the flesh must then be the PHYSICAL man.

I believe that the SPIRITUAL man is encased in a body of dust, and that he is ETERNAL;
the body of dust is TEMPORAL, even as that (the earth) from which it was formed.

"Except a man be born again, he cannot see...?

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