Is there some reason God had to set things up the way he (according to you guys) did? Could he have done anything differently? Do you sometimes wish he had?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Is there some reason God had to set things up the way he (according to you guys) did? Could he have done anything differently? Do you sometimes wish he had?
I believe God could have set things up in any manner He desired. However, for some unknown reason... He chose things they way they are. Baffles me sometimes.
Is there some reason God had to set things up the way he (according to you guys) did? Could he have done anything differently? Do you sometimes wish he had?
Timmy, great question & one in which I have given much thought, & prayer in regards to the issue you raised.
KJV Ephesians 3:
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Amplified Bible Epesians chapter 3:
9 Also to enlighten all men and make plain to them what is the plan [regarding the Gentiles and providing for the salvation of all men] of the mystery kept hidden through the ages and concealed until now in [the mind of] God Who created all things by Christ Jesus.
10 [The purpose is] that through the church the [c]complicated, many-sided wisdom of God in all its infinite variety and innumerable aspects might now be made known to the angelic rulers and authorities (principalities and powers) in the heavenly sphere.
When Lucifer sinned, I believe God's judgement was immediate & he literally was like lighting falling from heaven. I believe hell was created at that time & that there were a lot of angels mouths droped open & more than likely that was also the time that Lucifer became an accuser.
"You are not just, you are not fair, you care for nothing but yourself."
In so many words.
God, "lets us make man in our image" Which I believe he was talking to the Earth not a second person in the Holy Trinty.
And so began this school, whereby we are learning about God as well as the angelic realm & we as himan beings are able to see & know the harshness of his judgements.
We also know the extent or riches of his mercy & grace.
How could one know that God could forgive sin if we didn't have sin to forgive? How would we know the extent of God's love if not for the cross?
Would someone know that God could be a God of peace if we did not have turmoil?
Do you believe that God is all knowing, everywhere present, and all powerful, and that He is love, we all believe this, right????
That being true, what could possibly have caused Him to have to create eternal conscience torment for anybody or thing in HIS creation? What happened to "what shall separate us..."
"...everything is from God, and for God..." He has a plan and He is working His plan, it will eventually result in the complete redemption of everything He created.
Why He created evil and wickness is a wonder to the human mind, but not to His wisdom, His end justifies His means.
The contrast between light and darkness, good and evil and so on is part of the creation's maturity. Otherwise, God is not what the first sentence of this post supposes.
I know someone will bring up, God has to have justice, for the sinfulness of man!!! Well, if you believe that ECT is God's needed justice, you are completely insane on this subject.
Sin brought about death, and that is why we die. BUT, Jesus did what we could not do, He reconciled man to God, and our sins are no longer being counted against us. Period. If you believe this you will "live" here and now, and in the age to come. If you do not, you will live like hell here and now, and you will miss out on the age to come. You will stay dead while believers that have fruit will be rewarded at the judgement seat of Christ. But you will be resurrected for the GWT judgement, and the correcting fires of the "lake of fire', afterwhich you will come into right relationship with God, and all others in the creation, "...that God will then be ALL in ALL." Everything is for God, everything in the heavens and in the earth. That folks is everything and everybody.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Do you believe that God is all knowing, everywhere present, and all powerful, and that He is love, we all believe this, right????
That being true, what could possibly have caused Him to have to create eternal conscience torment for anybody or thing in HIS creation? What happened to "what shall separate us..."
"...everything is from God, and for God..." He has a plan and He is working His plan, it will eventually result in the complete redemption of everything He created.
Why He created evil and wickness is a wonder to the human mind, but not to His wisdom, His end justifies His means.
The contrast between light and darkness, good and evil and so on is part of the creation's maturity. Otherwise, God is not what the first sentence of this post supposes.
I know someone will bring up, God has to have justice, for the sinfulness of man!!! Well, if you believe that ECT is God's needed justice, you are completely insane on this subject.
Sin brought about death, and that is why we die. BUT, Jesus did what we could not do, He reconciled man to God, and our sins are no longer being counted against us. Period. If you believe this you will "live" here and now, and in the age to come. If you do not, you will live like hell here and now, and you will miss out on the age to come. You will stay dead will believers that have fruit will be rewarded at the judgement seat of Christ. But you will be resurrected for the GWT judgement, and the correcting fires of the "lake of fire', afterwhich you will come into right relationship with God, and all others in the creation, "...that God will then be ALL in ALL." Everything is for God, everything in the heavens and in the earth. That folks is everything and everybody.
I have scripture for it, what part do you deny? I will support any part you ask.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
I have scripture for it, what part do you deny? I will support any part you ask.
Hell is real & it is eternal! Hebrews 6:6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
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