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09-28-2010, 08:46 PM
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Obama-Christian By Choice
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09-28-2010, 08:50 PM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.
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09-28-2010, 09:40 PM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.
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Yeah, he was told 20 years ago to become a Christian so that he could get the Presidency in 2008. That makes total sense.
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09-28-2010, 09:48 PM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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Yeah, he was told 20 years ago to become a Christian so that he could get the Presidency in 2008. That makes total sense.
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You can't use quote and cut and paste very well.
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To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.
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He started running for offices other that president.
Do you know why he lied about his mom's religion?
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09-28-2010, 09:56 PM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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The president says he came to his Christian faith as an adult because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to him in terms of the kind of life he wanted to lead. President Obama says human beings are flawed and make mistakes, but that he tries to see God in others and does his best to help them.
He also said he thinks his public service is an expression of his Christian faith.
Recent public opinion surveys have shown that growing numbers of Americans incorrectly believe that the president is a Muslim.
President Obama discussed his faith in response to a question Tuesday during an economy discussion with residents in a small farming town south of Albuquerque, N.M.
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Works salvation?
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09-28-2010, 10:01 PM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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You can't use quote and cut and paste very well.
He started running for offices other that president.
Do you know why he lied about his mom's religion?
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He was first elected to public office in 1996, so instead of 20 years, he was told 10 years in advance to become a Christian to advance his political career. That makes about as much sense. lol
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09-28-2010, 10:13 PM
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"I'm a Christian by choice," Obama told his audience here. "My family didn't - frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church.
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That is a lie. His mom was an atheist.
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“Obama does clearly believe that the form of Christianity that he committed to at Trinity Church in 1985 is not the only path to God. ‘I am rooted in the Christian tradition,’ he has said. Nevertheless he asserts, ‘I believe there are many paths to the same place and that is a belief there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.’
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Do Twisp and Obama believe Jesus is not the only way?
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09-29-2010, 12:48 AM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
Yeah.... that stupid President... I hate him.... He don't love Jesus. He can't. I mean, his dad is Muslim and he has no choice... he's not a Christian... I don't know him, but I've heard him give speeches... and he can't be a Christian... yeah.. TIC
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09-29-2010, 01:51 AM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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That is a lie. His mom was an atheist.
Do Twisp and Obama believe Jesus is not the only way?
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His dad was an atheist. His mother, Obama claims, was a spiritual person. He didn't say she was a Christian
For my mother, organized religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the cloak of righteousness. This isn't to say that she provided me with no religious instruction.
In her mind, a working knowledge of the world's great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education. In our household the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology.
On Easter or Christmas Day my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites. But I was made to understand that such religious samplings required no sustained commitment on my part.
Religion was an expression of human culture, she would explain, not its wellspring, just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives.
In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
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09-29-2010, 06:03 AM
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Re: Obama-Christian By Choice
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Originally Posted by Maximilian
Yeah.... that stupid President... I hate him.... He don't love Jesus. He can't. I mean, his dad is Muslim and he has no choice... he's not a Christian... I don't know him, but I've heard him give speeches... and he can't be a Christian... yeah.. TIC
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While this kind of rhetoric drives me mad, I don't believe a fair evaluation of what Obama has said would lead one to believe that he understands the Christian faith. He tends to equate Christianity with other religions, He makes statements that equate more with pantheism, (seeing God in everyone)than Christianity, etc.
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