Marriage Rejuvenation?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Sean

I agree TK with the lifetime commitment to your spouse.(I am happily married at 34 years in Nov.).


You also know these guys/gals......



What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.



Can a man/woman be one with 2(or more)?


The definition of marriage is this, right?...



7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.



It seems that fornication with another breaks the oneness between husband/wife, creating oneness with another.

Adultery is a capital offense according to the Bible, so unless the spouses were reconciled, one would be dead and the other free from the marriage. Thus, adultery has usually been considered by Christians as valid grounds for divorce in societies where the laws of God are not being enforced by the secular power.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Never heard of that TK.(not saying it is not true either)

I only heard of families hearing folks' vows and the Law of Moses governing their marriage.

In the 1st century, where did they keep these marriage records(vital stats) for Jews?

You can see evidence of it in Matthew 1 and Luke 3. That is where they got Jesus' lineage. Without such lineage, Jesus would have been disqualified to be the true Messiah.

The Jewish Temple contained Hebrew lineages leading all the way back to Adam. These were lost when the Temple was destroyed by Titus in 70 AD.

[Sean]

Jesus and Paul also scripturally include adultery for grounds of a divorce.

I know brethren back in the 80's who's husbands/wives were cheating and the ministry forbid them to ever remarry(from the pulpit).

I heard it one time and a certain brother came up to me very distraught that he was "stuck" with an out of control wife after hearing this taught.

Years later after the minister raised his own kids(read between the lines), he reexamined this subject and found allowance for remarriage.

We worked with his busted kids(our age) and grandkids through those times.(not pretty).

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You can see evidence of it in Matthew 1 and Luke 3. That is where they got Jesus' lineage. Without such lineage, Jesus would have been disqualified to be the true Messiah.

The Jewish Temple contained Hebrew lineages leading all the way back to Adam. These were lost when the Temple was destroyed by Titus in 70 AD.

Okay, so these lineages included marriage details of all Israelites?

That would have been quite an undertaking for someone.

So, these state officials gave licenses to the couples?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Okay, so these lineages included marriage details of all Israelites?

That would have been quite an undertaking for someone.

So, these state officials gave licenses to the couples?

Licenses? If that means the marriages had to be acceptable to the Jewish government, then yes.

Sean, you should study to see the Bible's requirement for a pure Jewish lineage and you will see this. Study it out, Brother--study it out.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Licenses? If that means the marriages had to be acceptable to the Jewish government, then yes.

Sean, you should study to see the Bible's requirement for a pure Jewish lineage and you will see this. Study it out, Brother--study it out.

Study what, TK?

The internet has some whoppers.

I wonder if you or anyone can find something in ancient history or the Bible that reveals couples going for a license from a govt entity to get married.

I mean, if we teach it, shouldn't we be required to prove it?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Study what, TK?

The internet has some whoppers.

I wonder if you or anyone can find something in ancient history or the Bible that reveals couples going for a license from a govt entity to get married.

I mean, if we teach it, shouldn't we be required to prove it?

Well, if the lineages in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 and the Jewish ketubah is not enough, maybe YOU should tell us how marriage is done in the Bible??

And while you're at it, please explain to us why there is a need for a "bill of divorcement" if there was never some type of judicial agreement on marriage.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Study what, TK?

Uhm, how about the Bible?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Well, if the lineages in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 and the Jewish ketubah is not enough, maybe YOU should tell us how marriage is done in the Bible??

And while you're at it, please explain to us why there is a need for a "bill of divorcement" if there was never some type of judicial agreement on marriage.

Wait a minute TK.

Who gets the bill to make it official?

The spouse or the sanhedrin?

If someone is served with a bill of divorcement, who gets it?

If a man wanted to divorce his wife then, did he write a letter(bill) to the govt or his wife.

[Sean]

I cannot think of a single verse that shows(even hints) a couple getting permission by a govt agency to get married in the old or new testament times, can you help me?