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Old 04-24-2016, 07:50 PM
HappyJ HappyJ is offline
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Re: The Validity of Salvation

All those who are Fathered by God
have the same exact Spirit as God.

Hence why Jesus said to them...

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

They are the Spirit of God.

All those who are fathered by the devil
have the same exact spirit as the devil.

They are the spirit of the devil.

Hence why Jesus said to them...

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:07 AM
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Re: The Validity of Salvation

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[B]All those who are Fathered by God
have the same exact Spirit as God.
i think it is dangerous to assume conclusions such as this, in light of if you then, being evil..., spoken by Christ to an Apostle. If it is the Father's will that all might come to salvation, this also seems to run counter to this conclusion. Even for the elect, there is apparently a learning curve, or process, to be experienced. We come from darkness, and must take steps toward light.
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:02 PM
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i think it is dangerous to assume conclusions such as this, in light of if you then, being evil..., spoken by Christ to an Apostle. If it is the Father's will that all might come to salvation, this also seems to run counter to this conclusion. Even for the elect, there is apparently a learning curve, or process, to be experienced. We come from darkness, and must take steps toward light.
How has this worked out for you so far?
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:28 PM
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Re: The Validity of Salvation

well, i honestly still seek the joy of the Lord, at least in a sense, but i am pretty content. No one reading this would like my life, surely, but i trust God, and all of my needs are somehow met. People are putting money in my pockets while I'm asleep--because i would refuse it when awake--offering me cars and houses that i don't want, etc., and it is hard to gauge if it is pity or attempting to justify their MO by sucking me back in, and of course one cannot just ask such things. I get phone calls like "hey, can you come..." and I'm on one now, in fact, so I'm not being avoided.

But it is hard being at odds with everyone else's cultural norms, for sure. I have learned to acquiesce, and eat the poisoned food offered in silence, etc, suffer through the movie or whatever, and i am plateaued and still struggling in areas, but i would not go back.

You would surely describe me as a vagabond, lest i give any false impressions here; bum does not really fit, as i will put a new roof on for you, etc, but people find me frustrating, although their answers as to why strike me as codependent, "you just aren't like us" kind of stuff. Who wants to be that guy all the time, lol.
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