Your not Oneness but rather Patripassionist

[OilCityCajun]

I can think of 2 places where Christ said he is the I AM, he also forgave sins, which only God can do, and proved afterwards that he had the authority to forgive sins by healing the man of palsy. He didnt claim to be God, He is God and proved it with both words and deeds.

[SRM]

Originally Posted by SteppingStone

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

When I read that to me it's saying God was in the Anointing (The Spirit.)

Dual nature meaning half man half God?

Sounds weird does it not?..I agree Jesus Christ was annointed by God himself..

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Notice it does not say for God WAS him..as some would believe

To say Jesus had a dual nature makes him out to be a lunatic..Umm He knows everything but at the same time,He did not know the day and hour?

Hey,let em believe it if they want,I will simply disagree and allow Jesus to be who He said He was..


Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

I call this verse the missing verse in Acts 2..it gets ran over on the way to verse 38..



Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by OilCityCajun

I can think of 2 places where Christ said he is the I AM, he also forgave sins, which only God can do, and proved afterwards that he had the authority to forgive sins by healing the man of palsy. He didnt claim to be God, He is God and proved it with both words and deeds.

Amen.

[SRM]

Originally Posted by OilCityCajun

I can think of 2 places where Christ said he is the I AM, he also forgave sins, which only God can do, and proved afterwards that he had the authority to forgive sins by healing the man of palsy. He didnt claim to be God, He is God and proved it with both words and deeds.

Yes I agree Jesus said that...but I do not believe that proves He is God!

read on 1o more verses

Joh 9:9 Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he.

Guess we can say the blind man was before Abraham too?

How did Jesus forgive sin?

Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Mat 9:8 But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men. MAN..

[SRM]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Jesus claimed to be the Messiah. The religious sect knew the Messiah would be God in human form. Isaiah 9:6 explains it beautifully. The Messiah would be called the Mighty God.

yes..Jesus was called the mighty God..but not Almighty God in that verse..huge difference

[jagwinn]

I read these posts and am surprised that no one has yet identified the father of Jesus!
It is assumed, by most people that GOD was the father of Jesus, but in fact Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Ghost...the father of Jesus.

Later, Jesus said the following:

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Jhn 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Here is Jesus saying plainly he is the Father.

Also, if your patience has not run out with me, when we use the term "Dual nature" we are speaking of 2 natures in one [fully God/fully man], not 1/2 God and 1/2 man.

Bro in SC

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jagwinn

I read these posts and am surprised that no one has yet identified the father of Jesus!
It is assumed, by most people that GOD was the father of Jesus, but in fact Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Ghost...the father of Jesus.

Everyone knows that, bro. It is a given.

[seekerman]

Would this mean that Jesus, before He was born, was manifested as the Holy Ghost who overshadowed Mary, in essence being His own Father.

Who was Jesus calling "Father".....Himself?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Would this mean that Jesus, before He was born, was manifested as the Holy Ghost who overshadowed Mary, in essence being His own Father.

Who was Jesus calling "Father".....Himself?

Sounds like you never heard of oneness.

Father, Son and Holy Ghost are all God's single person manifesting in those three manners. How is that not possible for God, who is not a human being with limitations of a human being?

You consistently disregard what I am saying about limiting God with limits of humans. Your basis of comparison is human beings. Everytime you claim Jesus Fathered Himself, etc., you are making a basis of a single human being person to analyze if God can be a single person, when you do not stop to think God is not a single human person. That cannot be your basis of assessment!

[rawooddell]

Originally Posted by SteppingStone

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

When I read that to me it's saying God was in the Anointing (The Spirit.)

Dual nature meaning half man half God?

The dual nature of Jesus Christ does not create a half God half man as in Greek Mythology. The dual nature of Jesus Christ is where the Almighty God who continues from eternity exists, and at the same time assumed to himself a human nature therefore creating a temperal existance: a man, the man Christ Jesus. The Dual Nature perfectly articulates, in my opinion, the union of God with man in a way which would not cofuse the two (Deity and Humanity) or effect the one with the other, but at the same time allow the person, Jesus Christ, to be both. Jesus was both God and Man at the same time. Jesus was God because of his Divinity. Jesus was man because of his Humanity. Jesus the total person prayed to the Father because of the human nature but it was the total person who prayed or else the person is destroyed and is reduced to dual personalities trapped in a body.

Jesus (God existing as a man) could be anointed by, indwelt by, be witnessed to, pray to, love and be loved by God his Father (God continuing to exist as He always has) without creating two in the Godhead or confusing the person of Christ and having Jesus pray to himself. The dual nature makes this possible. In my opinion.