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Old 03-08-2010, 02:28 AM
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Oneness is NOT a cult!

Feel free to jump in. Jeffery, D4T, Pelathias, anyone else who considers themselves "oneness".

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...-is-NOT-a-Cult!
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:54 AM
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

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Feel free to jump in. Jeffery, D4T, Pelathias, anyone else who considers themselves "oneness".

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...-is-NOT-a-Cult!
Well, I am "oneness" and don't consider myself to be in a cult. Of course I am also one to see very little difference between oneness and trinitarism outside of hairsplitting to the nth degree and endless arguments regarding terminology (much of which each side considers salvational).

Now I DO consider many individual church's to be VERY cultish based on the authority that the high exalted mystic ruler-of-them-all has assumed for himself and the sheep-like way his followers follow.
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

I am Oneness and I do not feel I am in a cult....Shema...
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:01 AM
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Well, I am "oneness" and don't consider myself to be in a cult. Of course I am also one to see very little difference between oneness and trinitarism outside of hairsplitting to the nth degree and endless arguments regarding terminology (much of which each side considers salvational).

Now I DO consider many individual church's to be VERY cultish based on the authority that the high exalted mystic ruler-of-them-all has assumed for himself and the sheep-like way his followers follow.
Does anyone in a cult know they're in a cult?
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

I have always been Oneness but I see that I probably agree more with Trinitarian theology than Oneness theology. Sure the term persons has been hard for me to get used to but I am not sure there is really much difference in the two views.

So I now accept that I am trinitarian. This was probably the last idea from the UPC that I had held on to these past few years.

I have already told my wife that I am trinitarian and my pastor so far so good.
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This is not surprising...
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Old 03-08-2010, 01:31 PM
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Feel free to jump in. Jeffery, D4T, Pelathias, anyone else who considers themselves "oneness".

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...-is-NOT-a-Cult!
Haven't seen D4T around in a while.
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I have always been Oneness but I see that I probably agree more with Trinitarian theology than Oneness theology. Sure the term persons has been hard for me to get used to but I am not sure there is really much difference in the two views.

So I now accept that I am trinitarian. This was probably the last idea from the UPC that I had held on to these past few years.

I have already told my wife that I am trinitarian and my pastor so far so good.
Can you explain to me what the Trinity is?

if there is not much difference in the two views how can you be a Trinitarian, not Oneness?
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Can you explain to me what the Trinity is?

if there is not much difference in the two views how can you be a Trinitarian, not Oneness?
Prax, there is plenty of info out there on Trinitarian theology. It is Oneness theology I have a hard time finding a definition for. This is not something I have spent a lot of time thinking about or studying but it seems to me that within the Oneness movement it is hard to even find out what the basic Oneness thology is. Some say, Jesus is the Father, some say Jesus is the Son. Some say, Jesus came into existence when he was born some say he was just a man filled with the power of the Holy Ghost.

Growing up I was taught that God manifested himself in flesh and that he came and died on the cross and when you get the Holy Ghost you get Jesus' spirit inside of you. Am I going wrong here?

Honestly I lean more toward trinitarian views than Oneness. Another thing, I am not going to tell people I am Oneness because Christianity thinks Oneness doctrine is heresy. Other than this forum I don't associate with Oneness people anymore.


Prax, this is probably the scripture that really helped seal the deal and made me realize the beauty of the trinity. Here we have Jesus talking about how the Father has given him a bride and that Jesus, the Son, is doing the will of the Father. The Father sent his son to die in our place. He didn't send himself.


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36But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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I consider myself Oneness but I also believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
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