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Old 07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
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And there we have it ALL have sinned.... some sins are just worth big bucks!!
Don't ya know it? LOL!
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I get PO's stand. If an Apostolic married woman's heart is right, she will not be walking around in front of men other than her husband, wearing a bikini. Is that the gist PO?
Yes!!! I never said the pastor was right. I'm was just tired of the focus being, solely, on him. She wasn't right either! Fair is fair!!!

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Old 07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
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I get PO's stand. If an Apostolic married woman's heart is right, she will not be walking around in front of men other than her husband, wearing a bikini. Is that the gist PO?
AND she will know how to properly SUB-mitttttt <spit>!
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
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Yes!!! I never said the pastor was right. I'm was just tired of the focus being, solely, on him. She wasn't right either! Fair is fair!!!

Thanks, Cindy!!!!
You're welcome, and I agree.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

Boy I'm leaving this thread alone! I tried to post the definition of exhibitionism and fornication a few moments ago and when I tried to copy the definitions to the thread I got the National Debt Clock and it locked me up till all of the numbers were in place. I guess the $500,000 put us over the top! Who knows?

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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!

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Ummm...I can name one who got married about a month after her engagement, just last fall. I acknowledge that whirlwind romances happen, and I'm not knocking it. I'm not interested in placing my suspicions on the new couple. I'm thinking that Pastor Fogarty felt the need to justify their relationship to his congregation--that's where I'm smelling something foul.
Sorry, my thought was that the "romantic involvement" was probably engagement, not just starting to talk or show interest. I didn't mean to infer anything about the couple by that.
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Yes!!! I never said the pastor was right. I'm was just tired of the focus being, solely, on him. She wasn't right either! Fair is fair!!!

Thanks, Cindy!!!!
Well from reading 16 pages (or 32 if you have the site set differently), I think nearly ALL the discussion has been on the stupid bikini of which we know almost NO context. While we DO know most of the context for the words the pastor said. So I think much MORE should have been said about him.
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Okay, I meant to get off of here hours ago, but this is making me nuts!

So, now others can declare (publicly, no less) that we have sinned a specific sin because they think they know our motivation??? Yeow!!!

Only God knows our motivation.
Sorry, I missed this. Sometimes our outward appearance shows our motivation. Take Jezebel? The Bible specifically tells her motivation by her apparel. Sometimes, our outward dress and actions are going to show our heart.
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:03 PM
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Well from reading 16 pages (or 32 if you have the site set differently), I think nearly ALL the discussion has been on the stupid bikini of which we know almost NO context. While we DO know most of the context for the words the pastor said. So I think much MORE should have been said about him.
Yeah, if you know you are being recorded. Don't say anything you don't want the world to hear.
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I loved it, Stephen!!!

I still think the ex-wife had motive in her actions. I wanted to focus on her and would have regardless if I read the article or not.
Motive, whatever could make a Pentecostal or even a former Pentecostal wear a bikni? As I said once before, it could be something as simple as a way for her to give that church a big middle finger. (MissB paraphrased that for me a whole lot nicer but I can't think of how she put it).

There are many other motives for a Pentecostal/former Pentecostal to wear a bikini other than to reveal themselves to a guy.

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"James Driver once found his then-wife Angela Driver wearing a bikini at a swimming pool while with the husband of a mutual friend."

You'll have to prove that he was lying. I'm not slandering the woman. Her husband is the one that said it!
Not many have doubted that she wore a bikni. I believe she was. What many are doubting is that her husband found her alone with the other guy. The article never says that he claimed to have found them alone or without the other guys wife present.
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