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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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How many preachers' daughters, marrying for the first time (as I can only assume she must have been) can we name that are married within four months of starting to date? Four months after engagement, yes. But even that is pushing it. Four months after starting to date? Probably not.
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Ummm...I can name one who got married about a month after her engagement, just last fall. I acknowledge that whirlwind romances happen, and I'm not knocking it. I'm not interested in placing my suspicions on the new couple. I'm thinking that Pastor Fogarty felt the need to justify their relationship to his congregation--that's where I'm smelling something foul.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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No, I'm not. How am I backing up? I have agreed repeatedly that her actions were inappropriate. However, the timing of the pastor's announcement of her actions, and his characterization of those actions are suspect and that's why I have also said repeatedly that her lawsuit was justified.
There's enough bad judgment to go around here. Just because I'm picking apart the pastor's statement doesn't mean I'm suddenly in favor of wearing bikinis and spending quality time with men I'm not married to. 
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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No, I'm not. How am I backing up? I have agreed repeatedly that her actions were inappropriate. However, the timing of the pastor's announcement of her actions, and his characterization of those actions are suspect and that's why I have also said repeatedly that her lawsuit was justified.
There's enough bad judgment to go around here. Just because I'm picking apart the pastor's statement doesn't mean I'm suddenly in favor of wearing bikinis and spending quality time with men I'm not married to. 
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I agree! After all is said and done the woman won, but she wasn't in the right either. She just presented her case well and the pastor handled himself badly.
All of them were wrong!
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07-13-2010, 10:51 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I agree! After all is said and done the woman won, but she wasn't in the right either. She just presented her case well and the pastor handled himself badly.
All of them were wrong!
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LOL!!! YES!!! I agree.
I'm going to bed now--Jeff is waking me up at 5 a.m. so he can get an early start on our drive in the morning. We're going away for a couple of days for our 16th anniversary.
What is it with men and having to start trips while it's still dark outside?
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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That is my thought. As we have already seen here, a UC could very well call a woman wearing t-shirts and shorts a "bikini", and others picking up the baton turn around and ad to his definition calling her "naked". Suddenly we have a woman wearing a t-shirt a shorts who just happened to meet a man she knows (along with his wife) engaged in a sexual orgy at the hotel pool at midnight under the stars.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42T3rfhifOs
*edit before anyone says anything, it was the closest I could find to the real one by Prime Example. Yes, it shows a book of Mormon at the end. I'm not promoting that. The words to the song fit very well here.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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You've said more than enough in the last 60 pages, PO.
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07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
And there we have it ALL have sinned.... some sins are just worth big bucks!!
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I didn't read the article. I just wanted to ramp up the conversation about the bikini, man! What is wrong with that?! 
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Haha,
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LOL!!! YES!!! I agree. 
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Exactly! LOL!
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
I get PO's stand. If an Apostolic married woman's heart is right, she will not be walking around in front of men other than her husband, wearing a bikini. Is that the gist PO?
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