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Old 11-05-2007, 08:51 AM
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Ignorance is bliss...so they say.....
Calling a preacher ignorant. Calling God Word ignorant.

I'm sure God is happy about that.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:53 AM
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this happened in 2000, the last of it anyways. it went on for 6 years before we were able to escape.
Dear lord!

I know you haven't had time to catch up reading all this, but many were hoping that you could file charges and we didn't know if it'd been too much time between it happening and now to do so.

Thanks for answering and I pray the boys are okay now.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:54 AM
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Negative words about a preacher or pastor can't be told without it being preacher bashing to some.
Sadly that is true...I can not believe that God wants this men to continue distroying souls, and baby Christians....
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Calling a preacher ignorant. Calling God Word ignorant.

I'm sure God is happy about that.
I don't believe that is at all what she was saying. Why is everyone trying to make this thread a bashing thread. IT'S NOT!

These things happened - what she is referring to is "ignorance is bliss" if people want to hide their heads in the sand and act like nothing like this takes place.
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*sigh* I'm not minimizing anything, nor am I pretending anything doesn't exist. I don't think that recounting negative experiences qualifies as "preacher bashing" and I never stated that I did.

I don't believe these situations are as common as some "pretend", and neither are they as rare as others would like to think. There is a need for balance on both sides, and we should strive to keep that balance even when we have gone through something traumatic.

Surviving is important, and surviving means something different to each person. To some, emerging with their sanity is equivalent to survival. To me, it means I have been able to move past anger, bitterness and hurt, and even speak to some of the people who caused the hurt without bile rising up in my throat.

Not everyone recounts every detail of their abuse, and that doesn't mean they were any less mistreated than those who do. It is important, no matter what the situation, to still evaluate yourself and your reactions and your responses and make sure you and God are on the same page, since ultimately, that is the relationship that has always truly mattered the most, and should continue to be top priority.

Pastor T. preached yesterday about how we cannot control our circumstances, but we can control our reactions. I firmly believe that. There is no need to return evil for evil, and two wrongs do not make a right.

Thad, I haven't addressed my last few posts to Sis. Beezer or STS, so why are you asking me about them as if I did?

By the way: Did you know that optimists live longer than pessimists?
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:56 AM
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I don't call that preacher bashing. However, I think that needless negative references, name calling, mockery & making fun...those are things I would classify as "bashing."
Glad you clarified....you can ignore my previous post....I am trying very hard to NOT bash anyone, just speak MY truth...what happened to me and many others in my old church.....it it makes the pastor look bad that I can not help, because what he did is bad....
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:00 AM
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Surely we should respect Godly leadership that cares about the well-being of the Body Of Christ.
But there are those in leadership who overlord themselves over God's heritage which is agains't the Bible.
Ministers are not infallible, we should not subject ourselves to those who abuse their callings.
Spiritual authority calls for responsible leadership.
Exactly...
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:00 AM
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I don't believe that is at all what she was saying. Why is everyone trying to make this thread a bashing thread. IT'S NOT!

These things happened - what she is referring to is "ignorance is bliss" if people want to hide their heads in the sand and act like nothing like this takes place.
This thread is preacher bashing
For those who refuse to see that then
Ignorance is bless.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:05 AM
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*sigh* I'm not minimizing anything, nor am I pretending anything doesn't exist. I don't think that recounting negative experiences qualifies as "preacher bashing" and I never stated that I did.

I don't believe these situations are as common as some "pretend", and neither are they as rare as others would like to think. There is a need for balance on both sides, and we should strive to keep that balance even when we have gone through something traumatic.

Surviving is important, and surviving means something different to each person. To some, emerging with their sanity is equivalent to survival. To me, it means I have been able to move past anger, bitterness and hurt, and even speak to some of the people who caused the hurt without bile rising up in my throat.

Not everyone recounts every detail of their abuse, and that doesn't mean they were any less mistreated than those who do. It is important, no matter what the situation, to still evaluate yourself and your reactions and your responses and make sure you and God are on the same page, since ultimately, that is the relationship that has always truly mattered the most, and should continue to be top priority.

Pastor T. preached yesterday about how we cannot control our circumstances, but we can control our reactions. I firmly believe that. There is no need to return evil for evil, and two wrongs do not make a right.

Thad, I haven't addressed my last few posts to Sis. Beezer or STS, so why are you asking me about them as if I did?

By the way: Did you know that optimists live longer than pessimists?
don't want to make anyone here feel defensive or feel bad, I appreciate what you have contributed here...your one post just didn't claify...
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:07 AM
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This thread is preacher bashing
For those who refuse to see that then
Ignorance is bless.
I think your heart is not whole...it has no room compassion...or room for truth...
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