In light of recent posts on this forum, the response and actions taken have prompted me to start this thread.
Unlike other forums most of us have belonged to prior to the arrival of AFF, this forum decided to allow a small window of time in which someone can edit or delete a post. I have taken advantage of that opportunity from time to time, especially after seeing a typo or incomplete thought. I have also deleted a post or two, mainly because I felt it was out of line with the thread subject (posting hours later and the thread had already gone elsewhere, for instance), and a time when I wanted mainly one person to read what I wrote but didn't matter that anyone else would.
That said, I wonder why certain people are allowed to post things and hours later have it deleted as if they'd never said it. Typed words are no different than words we say in real life. We think about what to say to someone, and once those words are said, there is no taking them back.
If someone wants to post their soap-opera dramatics of their life on this forum, fine. But to do so then hours later contact admin to have it deleted....well, what do we have a editing and deleting window for? I thought this was to make us more responsible for things we say.
It's claimed that we don't delete threads here, even if the starter of the thread wants it deleted, but yet we can delete posts on request? This way we don't have accountability for things we say online?
Why can't we just think before hitting that submit button instead?
If this is seen as questioning admin, I'm sorry, but since this is happening in public, I am asking in public. There are other members who'd like to know the answers also. I'd also like to hear the thoughts of general members of the forum on this issue.
I'm honestly asking, not trying to cause trouble. I just think people need to be held accountable instead of looking to admin to erase their mistakes.
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In light of recent posts on this forum, the response and actions taken have prompted me to start this thread.
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I'm honestly asking, not trying to cause trouble. I just think people need to be held accountable instead of looking to admin to erase their mistakes.
I agree. It should be only in the extreme and unusual circumstance that someone is allowed to delete, and then only after consultation within that group of players.
Admins of course can delete whatever they want to protect their interests and the interests of AFF.
It's kind of like in a court of law. You can't "unring the bell." When someone says something irresponsible or inadmissible in front of the jury then it's too late to do anything. When someone posts irresponsibly and then can cover their tracks they have an unfair advantage in the battle of ideas. They "ring the bell" and get something irresponsible out into a broad audience, and then if they are allowed to delete and hide - they are never held accountable.
I think AFF is a great board with an incredible mix of beliefs and styles. With the 120 minute (or whatever it is) edit feature it's even better. But once you've had time to mull over your thoughts and decide to let the post stand for Google to index and the world to see - you need to be accountable.
Well, I believe I know what you are talking about and in that instance the person wasn't the one that contacted admin asking for it to be removed.
It was a decision made by admin - we have that option if we feel it's in the best interest of the forum to do so.
It's what we get paid the big bucks to do.
It was in the best interest of the forum, or the people involved?
People post their soap-opera lives here all the time and those posts remain. I feel that if someone wants to expose themselves in that manner, they should be held accountable for what they say.
I have posted personal info on this forum and admin has contacted me, asking if I was sure I wanted to expose myself that way or did I want them to delete it. I told them I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want it to remain. Did not admin ask the person who posted it if she wanted it removed or was ok with the removal of the post?
It's not the first time posts of that nature have been put on this forum. There is no accountability if admin comes along to cover up for someone posting in haste, anger, having a meltdown, or whatever.
Do you understand my POV on this issue?
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I agree. It should be only in the extreme and unusual circumstance that someone is allowed to delete, and then only after consultation within that group of players.
Admins of course can delete whatever they want to protect their interests and the interests of AFF.
It's kind of like in a court of law. You can't "unring the bell." When someone says something irresponsible or inadmissible in front of the jury then it's too late to do anything. When someone posts irresponsibly and then can cover their tracks they have an unfair advantage in the battle of ideas. They "ring the bell" and get something irresponsible out into a broad audience, and then if they are allowed to delete and hide - they are never held accountable.
I think AFF is a great board with an incredible mix of beliefs and styles. With the 120 minute (or whatever it is) edit feature it's even better. But once you've had time to mull over your thoughts and decide to let the post stand for Google to index and the world to see - you need to be accountable.
I belong to a forum that doesn't allow any editing or deleting at all from the minute the post is made. This requires the person to look it over before hitting the submit button for editing and such, but if you post it, you are responsible for it.
I have posting in haste, anger, and such like here before, but I apologize for things I said, not delete them as if they weren't said, nor did I have admins delete anything I have said. I simply copy the post I made and apologize, both in public and in PM to the person I offended with my comments.
It's no different than saying those words in real life.
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If everybody would behave like me ,we won't have such probelms here.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
The answer stays the same. I do understand your POV, now can you accept admins POV?
No offense, but there are 10 of you. Unless you are telling me it was unanimously done (and I don't believe it was), there is not one POV with the admins.
I'm not disagreeing with the decision, but the point is, where is the accountability with posters and things they say?
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