Ministerial Ethics, Dropping Out and TV: Did You Forget You Agreed to This? - Page 6

Jack Shephard · #51 10-05-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

You see... This is another reason why I could never be licensed through the UPC.

Who on earth could agree to this?

Your convictions change... which means that you have seen something to be true that you once had not seen as true... so you are signing a document that says you will walk away and leave the flock untaught for the sake of the assembly remaining within the UPCI.

Man... I just couldn't agree to something like that.

Yo tambien!

Nina · #52 10-05-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree. To un-affiliate the church you would have to argue a case and to make that case you will need to alienate and influence.

But you're talking about the exercise of ethics in an area that I don't think it's even been demanded before - between a local pastor and his meal ticket. That's always been untouchable.

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Originally Posted by pelathais

I don't think this one is "weird." The org is just saying that if you take the pastorate of a UPC affiliated church you must keep in mind that you took the pastorate of a UPC affiliated church. Otherwise you'd have guys coming into UPC churches and using their influence as pastor to rob the fellowship of churches.

Bro,

What do You get if You marry a woman who "ran around' on her husband to be with You?

You get a wife who "runs around" on her husband.

Nina

Darcie · #53 10-05-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

BTW, Darcie spotted it first.

Except for PJ's diatribe .... there seems to be a HOLY HUSH.

Perhaps the disciples of Mount CAF, who are presently homeless, or the men of the cloth from Wordshare would like to chime in?

I can't take all the credit Dan, you know it... we both saw it while on the phone...

I just goes to prove "Great minds think alike"

Nina · #54 10-05-2007, 10:27 AM

PS Just what IS a Pelathais anyway?

SDG · #55 10-05-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

I don't think this one is "weird." The org is just saying that if you take the pastorate of a UPC affiliated church you must keep in mind that you took the pastorate of a UPC affiliated church. Otherwise you'd have guys coming into UPC churches and using their influence as pastor to rob the fellowship of churches.

Excellent point ... this clause, in the code of ethics, seems to be addressing this also.

Darcie · #56 10-05-2007, 11:11 AM

It's really quiet in here....

Wonder why...

Coonskinner · #57 10-05-2007, 11:14 AM

The AS affirms the things written in the Articles of Faith.

Isn't this in the position papers, which is a separate section?

Ferd · #58 10-05-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

BTW, Darcie spotted it first.

Except for PJ's diatribe .... there seems to be a HOLY HUSH.

Perhaps the disciples of Mount CAF, who are presently homeless, or the men of the cloth from Wordshare would like to chime in?

Bravo Darcie!

Daniel, this is a brilliant thread and a fantastic point.

SDG · #59 10-05-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The AS affirms the things written in the Articles of Faith.

Isn't this in the position papers, which is a separate section?

The code of ethics is indeed in the official position papers of the fellowship ... and used w/ frequency to decide ethical matters w/ in the org and taught in classes/seminars for ministerial ethics.

The AS affirms a minister's agreement to the Fundamental Doctrine ... which in addition to the Acts 2:38 position includes a stance of not contending towards the disunity of the brethren ....

The AS also affirms the AOF's Holiness position ...

To my knowledge, it does not affirm all the AOF.

Coonskinner · #60 10-05-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The code of ethics is indeed in the official position papers of the fellowship ... and used w/ frequency to decide ethical matters w/ in the org and taught in classes/seminars for ministerial ethics.

The AS affirms a minister's agreement to the Fundamental Doctrine ... which in addition to the Acts 2:38 position includes a stance of not contending towards the disunity of the brethren ....

The AS also affirms the AOF's Holiness position ...

To my knowledge, it does not affirm all the AOF.

So basically, the technicality that someone thought they found, comparing this to violating things affirmed by the AS, is bunk.

Cool.