Islamic Prayers at the Vatican - Page 11

shazeep · #**101** 06-16-2014, 10:51 AM

and regardless of what the definition of Allah may have meant at one time, it is the definition that one carries with them, the personal one, that matters.

You worship an Unknown God, capitalized because you cannot know Him. Ever.

Luke · #**102** 06-16-2014, 10:58 AM

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They still read the Torah.

A distorted revised version.

Luke · #**103** 06-16-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

and regardless of what the definition of Allah may have meant at one time, it is the definition that one carries with them, the personal one, that matters.

You worship an Unknown God, capitalized because you cannot know Him. Ever.

Not true if someone decides to change the meaning of satan to mean savior or god it would not change who he was or is.

I know my God it is the Muslims that say that god cannot be known and to say that you know him is to be blasphemous.

shazeep · #**104** 06-16-2014, 11:06 AM

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Not true if someone decides to change the meaning of satan to mean savior or god it would not change who he was or is.

I know my God it is the Muslims that say that god cannot be known and to say that you know him is to be blasphemous.

ok, then let me correct myself, and say that if one is seeking One God--as opposed to satan, or polytheism--then that is what is relevant, imo.

To say that you know God is blasphemy, don't you think? You really think you know God, in this context? I'm pretty sure i could at least fit several Scriptures to my purpose there...you?

jfrog · #**105** 06-16-2014, 11:44 AM

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Yes it seemed that you were saying that allah was simply a name for God.

What else would it be?

Luke · #**106** 06-16-2014, 11:52 AM

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What else would it be?

It is the name of an idol moon god.

Luke · #**107** 06-16-2014, 12:10 PM

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ok, then let me correct myself, and say that if one is seeking One God--as opposed to satan, or polytheism--then that is what is relevant, imo.

No for there is but one true God and any other that is sought after weather it be one or many will not lead one to the truth.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Also as the old hymn says:

" There is just one way to the pearly gate,
To the crown of life and the friends who wait;
’Tis the old Cross Road, or the way called “Straight”—
There is just one way to the pearly gate."

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To say that you know God is blasphemy, don't you think? You really think you know God, in this context? I'm pretty sure i could at least fit several Scriptures to my purpose there...you?

I do know God as it is His desire for us to know Him therefore He reveals Himself to us for that there is plent of scripture. God invites us to come unto Him and to learn of Him nowhere does He forbid us to know Him or say that we cannot know Him.

If however you mean that i as a human cannot fully comprehend all that God is in his infinitness then you are correct that our minds cannot grasp all that He is. He however has revealed to us WHO He is.