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Old 05-19-2012, 05:16 PM
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I know that he is attempting to get under my skin, but his post was so funny and outrageous that I was having a difficult time not laughing out loud. As I said, research is very important. He is not even truly a faithful Moslem otherwise he would not be advocating that we worship the same God. After all, does not the Koran itself state that Allah has no Son?
Lol. I do the exact same thing! lol. And then they accuse me of getting all worked up! rofl
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:29 PM
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Much can be forgiven if accompanied by amusement LOL

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Lol. I do the exact same thing! lol. And then they accuse me of getting all worked up! rofl
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:32 PM
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...a human body, dwelt in it, that body prayed....

To who?

This is who we pray to
Until you accept that Jesus GOD in the flesh, both humanity and deity, you will never understand it.

1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;


The Gospel of Christ was foolishness to the Greeks because it defied their notion of gods. The Jews stumbled at it because they saw the Messiah as one freeing them from Roman rule.

People today still fall prey to the same things: either Jesus doesn't fit their notion of God, or he doesn't fit what they expect him to do.
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The author of I Cor neither knew Jesus nor met him.

You are the (third) who has dodged this question. Answer it or not. I believe that Every single one of you know the answer and that there is some discomfort in saying the words.

What I do not know is why.

Here is the question.

???? who. did. Jesus. pray. to. ????

We do know and we can answer because we also pray to Him. No sign required.

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Until you accept that Jesus GOD in the flesh, both humanity and deity, you will never understand it.

1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;


The Gospel of Christ was foolishness to the Greeks because it defied their notion of gods. The Jews stumbled at it because they saw the Messiah as one freeing them from Roman rule.

People today still fall prey to the same things: either Jesus doesn't fit their notion of God, or he doesn't fit what they expect him to do.

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Old 05-20-2012, 09:34 AM
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Until you accept that Jesus GOD in the flesh, both humanity and deity, you will never understand it.

1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;


The Gospel of Christ was foolishness to the Greeks because it defied their notion of gods...
Hmm, yet our NT comes through the Greek,
although written by Jews; I'm still researching there.
The first line translates as one's standards, applied to others, imo,
if it means one is now praying to their High Priest,
instead of in His Name. We are joint heirs with Christ.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:25 PM
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Who else would Jesus pray to if He were God Almighty. He came to earth to be our example in all things, including submission to the will of God. Therefore, we can see why He would pray.

Byrd, the language of commerce, trade, and education was Greek. The Jewish people to communicate effectively with their Roman rulers would have needed at least a working knowledge of the language.

The Greeks stuggled with the fact that God would allow people to hang him upon a cross to die. It took a god to kill or harm another god. Thus it was difficult for them to believe that mere humanity could do so. This was impossible. Because of this, the theologians that came along after the apostles died claimed that God would be unable to suffer.
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Who else would Jesus pray to..... He came to earth to be our example in all things, including submission to the will of God.

The original question as asked has been answered.

Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

So you are saying that prayer to the God of Adam and the Prophets would be one action of submission as exampled by Jesus?

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Who else would Jesus pray to if He were God Almighty. He came to earth to be our example in all things, including submission to the will of God. Therefore, we can see why He would pray.

Byrd, the language of commerce, trade, and education was Greek. The Jewish people to communicate effectively with their Roman rulers would have needed at least a working knowledge of the language.

The Greeks stuggled with the fact that God would allow people to hang him upon a cross to die. It took a god to kill or harm another god. Thus it was difficult for them to believe that mere humanity could do so. This was impossible. Because of this, the theologians that came along after the apostles died claimed that God would be unable to suffer.
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LOL be nice. They're all in church today. As you know our prayers are on Friday......

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LOL be nice. They're all in church today. As you know our prayers are on Friday......

After my post, I lay upon the couch and entered a state of deep meditation while contemplating the hinder portion of the lids of my eyes. After a couple of hours, then I was in service. I have since been posting upon this forum.


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Who else would Jesus pray to..... He came to earth to be our example in all things, including submission to the will of God.

The original question as asked has been answered.

Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

So you are saying that prayer to the God of Adam and the Prophets would be one action of submission as exampled by Jesus?


I would say in a single word yes. That would be one example of how He modeled the will of God. However, the fact that he prayed does not take away at all from His divinity.
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