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11-10-2007, 08:30 PM
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Is it Wrong to be an Independent Church or Minister?
Are ministers and churches who choose to be independent of organizations/denominations rebellious?
Are they ignoring biblical governance and authority?
Should we refuse to fellowship those who are not affiliated with a religious organization outside of their local assembly?
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11-10-2007, 08:33 PM
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Are ministers and churches who choose to be independent of organizations/denominations rebellious?
Are they ignoring biblical governance and authority?
Should we refuse to fellowship those who are not affiliated with a religious organization outside of their local assembly?
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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11-10-2007, 08:34 PM
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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There seems to be an opinion that an independent spirit is wrong.
I actually had a bible college instructor tell me that he would never use an independent minister, and that he did not trust men that wouldn't submit to an organization.
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11-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
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11-10-2007, 08:37 PM
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11-10-2007, 08:39 PM
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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Mizpeh, how do you know if a minister is part of the body of Christ if he is independent?
I mean there is no affirmation statement that proves what his beliefs truly are.
How can we possibly trust independent ministers?
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11-10-2007, 08:42 PM
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Are ministers and churches who choose to be independent of organizations/denominations rebellious?
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Not generally, but it could depend on the reasons, if they belonged to an organization and left.
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Are they ignoring biblical governance and authority?
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As long as they are working with other ministers and churches to spread the Gospel, I don't think they are ignoring Biblical precedent.
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Should we refuse to fellowship those who are not affiliated with a religious organization outside of their local assembly?
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Absolutely not! I think it is a crying shame that there ARE ministers who will only fellowship those within their organization, and sometimes their circle within the circle.
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11-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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Mizpeh, how do you know if a minister is part of the body of Christ if he is independent?
I mean there is no affirmation statement that proves what his beliefs truly are.
How can we possibly trust independent ministers?
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I'm sorry, I cannot provide an answer that is equally TIC, therefore I'll just watch. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-10-2007, 08:46 PM
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Hello...NO.
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When I first read that I missed the "O" in "hello"..... 
LOL
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11-10-2007, 08:46 PM
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Mizpeh, how do you know if a minister is part of the body of Christ if he is independent?
I mean there is no affirmation statement that proves what his beliefs truly are.
How can we possibly trust independent ministers?
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Hey brother, this passage works for me as far as recognizing brethren.
1 John 3:23-4:8 (KJV)
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. [24] And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
[4:1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. [2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: [3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. [5] They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. [6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
[7] Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. [8] He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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