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Old 07-21-2007, 08:22 PM
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(CNN) -- Tammy Faye Messner, the former televangelist and Christian singer who battled drug addiction and later inoperable cancer, died Friday morning, according to CNN's Larry King on Saturday night. He said the family had asked him to make the delayed announcement.
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(CNN) -- Tammy Faye Messner, the former televangelist and Christian singer who battled drug addiction and later inoperable cancer, died Friday morning, according to CNN's Larry King on Saturday night. He said the family had asked him to make the delayed announcement.

She was 65.
"She died peacefully," King said.
Messner was a guest on "Larry King Live" on Thursday. She said she couldn't swallow food, and weighed only 65 pounds.
King asked her Thursday if she were "a little scared?"
She responded, "A little bit," adding that she mainly worried about her family.
She made dramatic appearances on the now-defunct, Christian PTL Network she started with then-husband Jim Bakker, its host. Before millions of viewers, she would often break into tears, prompting her trademark heavy mascara to run.
After divorcing Bakker, who became steeped in money and sex scandals, she married Christian construction magnate and former PTL contractor Roe Messner in 1993. Tammy Faye was married to Bakker more than 30 years.
She underwent surgery for colon cancer in 1996. In 2004, she revealed that the disease had spread to her lungs, and in May 2007 she announced that her doctors had stopped trying to treating the illness.
In her appearance on CNN's "Larry King Live," Tammy Faye Messner was a shadow of her former self.
"I believe when I leave this Earth, because I love the Lord, I am going straight to heaven," she said.
King said she had sought the interview.
She told King she was bedridden most of the time, had trouble swallowing food -- hence the weight loss -- and was in near-constant pain.
But her sense of humor was still intact. On her Web site, she wrote on Monday, "I crave hamburgers and french fries with LOTS of ketchup! When I can eat that again, it will be a day of victory!"
Asked by King what she would most like to be remembered for, Messner replied, "well, my eyelashes." Messner wore heavy makeup -- her lip liner, eyeliner and eyebrows were tattooed on.
Born Tammy Faye LaValley in International Falls, Minnesota, she married Bakker in 1961. From 1966 to 1973, the Bakkers co-hosted "The 700 Club," on the Christian Broadcasting Network, founded by television evangelist and Christian Coalition founder the Rev. Pat Robertson.
They began the PTL Club -- with the initials standing for "Praise The Lord" or "People That Love" -- in 1974 and later expanded it into a television network. At the height of its popularity, PTL was bringing in revenues of more than $128 million annually and was carried on more than 1,300 cable systems with more than 12 million subscribers.
In 1978, the Heritage USA theme park opened at the network's headquarters in Fort Mill, S.C. The Heritage USA Grand Hotel was added in 1984 and a water park in 1986. That year, more than 6 million people visited the park, making it the nation's third most popular attraction after Walt Disney World and Disneyland.
On March 19, 1987, Jim Bakker resigned from the PTL in the face of a scandal involving an affair seven years earlier with Jessica Hahn, a secretary he paid to keep quiet. Hahn received a one-time $115,000 payment and monthly interest payments from a $150,000 trust fund.
The following month, PTL filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Also in 1987, Tammy Faye Bakker was treated at the Betty Ford Center for prescription drug addiction.
And in December 1988, Jim Bakker was indicted for fraud and conspiring to defraud churchgoers of $158 million. Tammy Faye Bakker was not named in the indictment.
In 1989, Heritage USA and the Grand Hotel closed, and Jim Bakker was convicted of 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy and sentenced to 45 years in prison. Tammy Faye Bakker divorced him while he was incarcerated.
Asked in July what she would change in her life if she could, Tammy Faye replied, "I don't think about that, Larry, because that's just a waste of good brain space."
When King suggested that she might want to forget the PTL Club, she said, "I have gotten over that, thank God. That was a terrible, horribly bad experience."
The Bakkers' 30-year-old son, Jay, is a pastor who co-founded the Revolution Church in Brooklyn, N.Y. -- a church aimed at those who feel rejected by traditional approaches to Christianity, claiming on the church's Web site that he wrestled with religion after seeing the "excommunicative" treatment his parents experienced from the church following the scandal.
Tammy Faye has also been known as one of the few evangelical Christians who had the support of the gay community. She was one of the first televangelists to reach out to those with AIDS when it was a little-known and much-feared disease. In return, she told King in July, "When I went -- when we lost everything, it was the gay people that came to my rescue, and I will always love them for that."
She was able to bounce back after the PTL folded. In 1996, she co-hosted the "Jim J. and Tammy Faye Show" with gay actor Jim J. Bullock. In 2000, a documentary based on her life, "The Eyes of Tammy Faye," was nominated for the Grand Jury Prize at the Sundance Film Festival. And in 2003, she appeared on the WB network's reality show, "The Surreal Life."
Over her life, Tammy Faye also recorded more than 25 albums and wrote several books. In 1996, she wrote her autobiography, "Telling it My Way." She also wrote "Run to the Roar," a book about overcoming fear, and in 2003 wrote her last book, "I Will Survive, and You Will Too."
Despite her battle with cancer, Tammy Faye told King she kept her Christian faith, instructing her doctors not to tell her how much time they believed she had left. "I don't have any date written on me anywhere that says I'm going to die at any time, and so I just give it to the Lord," she said.
Asked if she had a message for her fans, she replied: "I'd like to say that I genuinely love you, and I genuinely care, and I genuinely want to see you in heaven some day. I want you to find peace. I want you to find joy."
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File PhotoTammy Faye Messener in a 1984 photo.Tammy Faye Messner, whose can-do Christian cheer helped her survive the PTL scandal and forge a second career as a pop-culture queen, died Friday after battling cancer for more than a decade, according to an announcement on her Web site.

She was 65.

Her death also was announced Saturday night on CNN by talk-show host Larry King, who said Tammy Faye died Friday at her home near Kansas City, Mo.

King said he had been contacted by the family and asked to make the announcement.

Tammy Faye and her husband, Roe Messner, recently moved from Charlotte to the Kansas City area.

For Tammy Faye, like Elvis, no last name was necessary.

She came to fame in the late 1970s as half of the televangelism team -- Jim and Tammy Bakker -- that founded the PTL empire in Fort Mill, S.C., which grew to include a hotel, campground and Christian theme park. On the "Jim and Tammy" TV show, she sang about Jesus and shed countless mascara-tinged tears, bringing ever greater support and donations from the faithful -- and mounting ridicule from skeptics.

By the late 1980s, the first couple of Christian TV were in disgrace amid a flurry of damaging headlines: that Jim Bakker had a sexual encounter with church secretary Jessica Hahn, that he and associates had paid hush money to keep her quiet and that PTL had defrauded thousands of followers by overselling "lifetime partnerships" at its Heritage Grand hotel.

The PTL (for Praise the Lord) story eventually faded. But the public's fascination with Tammy Faye -- and her own determination to re-invent herself -- never dimmed.

In her post-PTL life, Messner grabbed the occasional spotlight by playing herself on TV sitcoms and reality shows, selling "Tammy Faye Celebrity Wigs" (16 different colors), and publishing a 1996 autobiography that mostly blamed the downfall of PTL on others.

The 4-foot-11 singer, whose first fans were conservative Christians, also developed a late-in-life cult following among gays, many of whom admired her spunk and her unapologetic -- and over-the-top -- style.

This year Messner moved from her home in Matthews to Kansas City, where the children and grandchildren of her church contractor husband Roe Messner live, and where he built her a house.

In May, she had this message for her fans posted on www.tammyfaye.com: "The doctors have stopped trying to treat the cancer and so now it's up to God and my faith. And that's enough!"

Messner, weighing just 65 pounds, appeared on CNN's Larry King show in July to say that she's relying on her faith in God to get her through the final stages of her life.

She is survived by her husband, and her two children with Bakker. Both followed their parents into the evangelism business: Tammy Sue Chapman is a Christian singer, and son Jamie Charles -- known as Jay -- branded his body with Jesus tattoos, created the Revolution Church and starred in a documentary series on the Sundance Channel called "One Punk Under God."

Through the years, Messner called on her sunny Christianity to get through one crisis after another: Bakker's imprisonment and the breakup of their 30-year marriage in 1992; her own addiction to tranquilizers; the 1996 conviction and jailing of her husband, Roe, for federal bankruptcy fraud; his battle with prostate cancer; and her own health problems, which began with colon cancer surgery in 1996.

Messner even learned how to laugh along with those who mocked or imitated her. Stand-up comics made fun of her mascara while drag queens did their best versions of her at gay nightclubs.

"I've had a lot of realities of life hit me right in the face," Messner told the Observer in 1996. "But I've always believed the words, `You can make it.' It's not just something I sang at PTL. I never give up."

Love changed everything

The former Tamara Faye LaValley was born on March 7, 1942, the oldest of eight children in International Falls, Minn., along the Canadian border. The family was so poor, they didn't have an indoor bathroom.But little Tammy had talent: Urged on by her music-loving mother, she was singing before church audiences by age 3.

In 1960, she met Jim Bakker. Both were students at North Central Bible College in Minneapolis. He was a smooth-talking young evangelist whose first date with Tammy offered a whisper of the faith and romance to come. They went to church, then he kissed the petite 17-year-old.

"I had never given a boy a kiss on a first date," she once said. "But that wasn't going to stop me now. I reached over and kissed him, and `Wow!' I, too, was in love."

They married on April 1, 1961, then set out together to preach -- and, in her case, sing -- about the joy of Jesus.

The rise of PTL

A pastor's invitation brought them to North Carolina.

Traveling from church to church led them to a big idea.

Premiering their PTL Club show from an old furniture store in Charlotte in 1974, they got their first chance to blend Christianity and talk show-style entertainment -- something that hadn't been done before in quite that fashion.

"I really am the mother of Christian television," she told a Texas newspaper years later.

Using their TV show as the magnet, they opened Heritage USA in Fort Mill in 1978, dreaming of a Christian complex that could entertain and inspire. It would also bring them a luxurious lifestyle and the attention of presidents. Before long, they'd transformed the 2,300-acre site south of Charlotte into a Christian version of Walt Disney World.

At its height in 1986, about 6 million people visited Heritage USA for its hotel, shopping mall, rides, Christmas lights and more.

For all the attractions, the centerpiece remained the Jim and Tammy TV show, broadcast over satellite to millions each day.

The fall of the empire

It all came crashing down.Bakker resigned as PTL president in 1987, amid a series of Pulitzer Prize-winning articles in the Observer detailing scandals. In 1989, he was convicted of bilking followers of $158 million.

Messner steered clear of legal troubles herself. But she remained unrepentant, acknowledging mistakes in judgment but denying any crimes by Bakker. Instead, she pointed the finger at others -- competing evangelists, disloyal members of the PTL team, and the government..

She defended the Bakkers' opulent lifestyle, saying the couple needed a houseboat on Lake Wylie to get away from fans and insisting that amassing wealth was no sin.

"If you have a diamond ring," she wrote in her 1996 autobiography, "that diamond ring isn't going to keep you from loving the Lord."

The day Jim Bakker was convicted in 1989, she stood outside the federal courthouse in uptown Charlotte, looked into a sea of reporters and sang the first verse of "On Christ the Solid Rock I Stand."

Life after PTL, Bakker

But while Bakker served his five years in prison, Messner divorced him in 1992. A year later, she married Bakker friend and associate Roe Messner (a contractor whose company built Heritage USA) and moved on. Eventually, that meant a spot in a pop culture landscape that had become increasingly obsessed with celebrity.

She starred in a TV talk show with a gay sidekick and a reality show where she shared a Hollywood mansion with a former porn star and others.

"I thought my day was over (when PTL fell)," she said in a 1996 interview. "The only thing that made me think it might not be was that people still recognized me."

She liked the limelight -- and all the perks. "After PTL, I thought I'd never ride in another limousine again," she said.

Messner also promoted causes -- in her own way: In 1995, she taped "You Can Make It," a motivational infomercial at Spirit Square in Charlotte. Sporting spiked pink heels and hot pink stirrup pants, she brought her beloved Yorkshire terrier, Tuppins, to the stage as part of the act.

A critically praised 2000 documentary, "The Eyes of Tammy Faye," chronicled her eccentric life and times and premiered at the Museum of Modern Art in New York.

And her popularity with many gays inspired a one-woman show in 2002 at the Jackie Gleason Theater in the South Beach section of Miami Beach. She even was guest of honor at a gay bingo fundraiser in Charlotte, put on by a ministry to HIV/AIDS patients.

"I think they (gays) see me as a survivor," Messner said, articulating the theme that ran like a thread through her life. "...We in America appreciate someone who can survive. There's no one I won't hug."

Her final moment on stage

Then the cancer returned, and spread.

But even then, she enjoyed a few more moments in the spotlight. For her, cancer was another plot twist to play out on her Web site or on TV talk shows such as CNN's "Larry King Live."

As she shared the most personal details of her treatment, she stayed upbeat -- even perky.

"I know I'm going to heaven to be with Jesus," she said at one point. "I just don't want to be on the next bus."

Then, facing head-on the possibility of hair loss, she said, "Honey, I was born with wigs ready."

She also kept shopping, often at the T.J. Maxx store on Independence Boulevard, before moving to Kansas City.

She and her husband frequently visited the Showmars restaurant on Independence Boulevard, where they were favorites with the staff.

Looking back on her life a decade ago, Tammy Faye summed it all up this way:

"When I was a little girl, I used to pray: `Dear God, please don't let my life be boring.'

"I found that you have to be careful what you pray for."

-- Tim Funk and former religion editor Ken Garfield
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I was amazed that she made the interview - she was barely existing.
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I was amazed that she made the interview - she was barely existing.
Yes, but with the last words to all those who saw her, she proclaimed her faith in God and her assurance of going to Heaven.

Whenever she has been on the Larry King show in the past she has been very open about her faith in Jesus Christ. She has openly spoken about receiving the Holy Ghost baptism and how that experience has helped her to face her difficulties.
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Yes, but with the last words to all those who saw her, she proclaimed her faith in God and her assurance of going to Heaven.

Whenever she has been on the Larry King show in the past she has been very open about her faith in Jesus Christ. She has openly spoken about receiving the Holy Ghost baptism and how that experience has helped her to face her difficulties.
You are exactly right!
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Very sad. Not long ago when I read what kind of shape she was in I thought about her early years as a young teen at a AOG Bible College. Full of life, commited to God, and excited about her whole life in front of her.

She lost her way for many years but I really hope that at the end she returned to what really matters, that personal faith and relationship with the Lord and peace from the Holy Spirit we enjoy.
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