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Old 06-15-2007, 10:11 AM
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Are Men in Pentecost threatened by INTELLIGENT WOMEN?

Women earned 45.1 percent of bachelor's degrees in business in 1984-5 and 50 percent by 2001-2, up from only 9.1 percent in 1970-1."


It is fairly well known that women today outnumber men in American colleges. In 2003, there were 1.35 females for every male who graduated from a four-year college and 1.3 females for every male undergraduate. That contrasts with 1960, when there were 1.6 males for every female graduating from a U.S. four-year college and 1.55 males for every female undergraduate.

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With more and more women now dominating the college scene in our society, we are seeing the glass ceiling slowly but surely crumble in business, gov't and professional sectors.

Women have always been as intelligent as men but most of us recognize that there has been a change in paradigms that are centuries old.

Now enter the Church. Among most Pentecostal circles women have traditionally not held many positions of leadership, nor have they been as vocal as they are today.

One only needs to look at the number of licensed ministers in some fellowships to see that there is still a disproportionate balance.

Although, I don't think this will change anytime soon ... nor am I advocating a crusade .... it is somewhat troubling to me.

however, my question is as follows ... have some men allowed their view of church hierarchy to pervade in their attitudes towards intelligent, independent-thinking and vocal women in other venues ?

... let's say ... like on an online forum or other secular activities?

Are they threatened to see that males aren't always in charge or the purveyors of higher thought?

What say ye?
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:14 AM
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
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I think most men appreciate and respect intelligence.

Intelligence isn't the problem in my opinion but it might be pushy, unsubmissive women who rebel, question and test authority and leadership.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
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Not this apostolic man.

But one can be intelligent without being a smart-alec.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:16 AM
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Who me? I for one love an intelligent independent thinking woman. It's now a pre-requisite for any woman I might date in the future.
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As an educated, intelligent woman, I say no. But, I have no desire to be in a leadership position.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:18 AM
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Women earned 45.1 percent of bachelor's degrees in business in 1984-5 and 50 percent by 2001-2, up from only 9.1 percent in 1970-1."


It is fairly well known that women today outnumber men in American colleges. In 2003, there were 1.35 females for every male who graduated from a four-year college and 1.3 females for every male undergraduate. That contrasts with 1960, when there were 1.6 males for every female graduating from a U.S. four-year college and 1.55 males for every female undergraduate.

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With more and more women now dominating the college scene in our society, we are seeing the glass ceiling slowly by surely crumble in the business, gov't and professional sectors.


Women have always been as intelligent as men but most of us recognize that there has been a change in paradigms that are centuries old.


Now enter the Church. Among most Pentecostal circles women have traditionally not held many positions of leadership and have not been as vocal as they are today.

One only needs to look at the number of licensed ministers in some fellowships to see that there is still a disproportionate balance.

Although, I don't think this will change anytime soon ... nor am I advocating a crusade .... it is somewhat troubling to me.

however, my question is as follows ... have some men allowed their view of church hierarchy to pervade in their attitudes towards intelligent, independent-thinking and vocal women in other venues.

... let's say like on an online forum or other secular activities?

Are they threatened to see that males aren't always in charge or the purveyors of higher thought?

What say ye?
It really doesn't matter how educated or intelligent (the two are not the same thing) a woman may be: God does not call women to leadership in the Church (elders and the "five-fold ministry").
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I think most men appreciate and respect intelligence.

Intelligence isn't the problem in my opinion but it might be pushy, unsubmissive women who rebel, question and test authority and leadership.
Felicity,

I think you have mastered the fine art of expressing the wisdom God has given you without making a man feel inferior.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:20 AM
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I think most men appreciate and respect intelligence.

Intelligence isn't the problem in my opinion but it might be pushy, unsubmissive women who rebel, question and test authority and leadership.
But does that really apply here on this forum ? Do woman have to demonstrate submissiveness to the males in their online discussions?
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It really doesn't matter how educated or intelligent (the two are not the same thing) a woman may be: God does not call women to leadership in the Church (elders and the "five-fold ministry").
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