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Old 03-20-2016, 09:09 PM
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Hebrews 10:26.

I would like to see some comments on this verse. Some people seem to think it is saying if you sin after receiving salvation, there is no hope for you.
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:52 PM
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Re: Hebrews 10:26.

Verse 26-27 is a general principle tied to verse 28. Under the Law, willful, voluntary sinning had no sacrifice provided for it. If a person said "I know what the LORD has commanded, but I do not care, I'm gonna do this anyway", they could NOT bring a sacrifice for sin or trespass, they were simply put to death. Period. Full stop.

Verse 29 carries that theme into the new covenant. If under the law presumptuous sin was treated as a capital offense with no sacrifice possible, how much MORE worthy of death are willful apostates from Christ? Seeing as the new covenant is infinitely better than the old, the punishment for willful sin/apostasy from the new is infinitely worse than under the old.

Vs 29 clarifies what is being discussed: willful, presumptuous sinning after having been "saved". Backsliding is unbelievably dangerous to the soul.

But to conclude the backslider CANNOT be forgiven upon repentance is nonsense, and nowhere stated in the passage.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:58 AM
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Re: Hebrews 10:26.

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Verse 26-27 is a general principle tied to verse 28. Under the Law, willful, voluntary sinning had no sacrifice provided for it. If a person said "I know what the LORD has commanded, but I do not care, I'm gonna do this anyway", they could NOT bring a sacrifice for sin or trespass, they were simply put to death. Period. Full stop.

Verse 29 carries that theme into the new covenant. If under the law presumptuous sin was treated as a capital offense with no sacrifice possible, how much MORE worthy of death are willful apostates from Christ? Seeing as the new covenant is infinitely better than the old, the punishment for willful sin/apostasy from the new is infinitely worse than under the old.

Vs 29 clarifies what is being discussed: willful, presumptuous sinning after having been "saved". Backsliding is unbelievably dangerous to the soul.

But to conclude the backslider CANNOT be forgiven upon repentance is nonsense, and nowhere stated in the passage.
All very well put.

The statement in bold can correspond to Gal 5:4, which many seem to
misinterpret. A person is not fallen from grace because he sins; rather,
a person falls from grace because by rejecting the cross and embracing
another means of salvation: be it the Law, works, or one of the two
false religion: the no god religion; or, the many gods religion. Backsliding
does not necessarily condemn; it is the stopping from sliding with self-
justification that condemns.

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Re: Hebrews 10:26.

Some good responses to this thread. One point to remember is that all scripture must work together so you have to take this scripture in context with other scripture about the nature of God's forgiveness, our position with him after salvation, etc. Any one scripture isolated can be taken out of context of how it fits as a whole in God's Word and can easily cause confusion.
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