Benjamin Netanyahu speaking at AIPAC today

[Pressing-On]

Beginning at the 01:12 marker

http://www.c-span.org/video/?324597-...ual-conference

WARMLY received!!!

[Walks_in_islam]

The christian community has always embraced violence and apartheid and always will.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

The christian community has always embraced violence and apartheid and always will.

Wadr, those are the ones who will hear, "I never knew you," if what you say is the case. And there is nothing new under the sun, we read...so, while i agree with you now, this was not the case so much 50 years ago, and even 30 years ago would have been virtually impossible to verify. We are in a rough part in the cycle; but these will be defeated, and the remnant that remains will shine...for a while...we are all deceived by satan, i guess.

So, it serves one's cause best to avoid blanket condemnations, and humbly present the situation as best one sees it; recognizing that the equally deceived Netanyahus of the world will be known by their fruit, in the end. I'm reading that HW Bush is afraid to travel...somewhere now, an allied country, for fear of being arrested for his crimes.

[Walks_in_islam]

Perhaps. These people for years have tied and associated me with far-flung events that I am not nor have ever associated with and now they will embrace and celebrate a terrorist in our country? No. They will acknowledge openly what they support.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

I'm reading that HW Bush is afraid to travel...somewhere now, an allied country, for fear of being arrested for his crimes.

HW Bush? What "crimes" did HW Bush commit?

Of course, knowing that HW Bush is 90 years old and ill in health, I doubt he's traveling anywhere much, especially out of the country. He was invited to Selma for the anniversary of the civil rights march, but turned it down because of his health.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Perhaps. These people for years have tied and associated me with far-flung events that I am not nor have ever associated with and now they will embrace and celebrate a terrorist in our country? No. They will acknowledge openly what they support.

Ha well they have mostly done that, to eyes that see at least; and you, having a wider view, are privileged in a way that many are not, who have been raised from the womb in a lie, unawares. A difficult enough process, that few actually even escape, so why create animosity in the process? What you resist, persists, yes? Better to go to others where they are, if possible. We were raised with the conception of Bibi as a Defender of Right; and i bet he even views himself that way still. It is hard, very hard, to grasp the moment one has become a monster.

It is relevant here to understand that Hitler was nominated for a Nobel Peace prize, folks. Don't let your eyes deceive you.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

It is relevant here to understand that Hitler was nominated for a Nobel Peace prize, folks.

A bit of context should be given here, lest people actually believe Hitler was seriously nominated for a Nobel Peace price:

Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, by a member of the Swedish parliament, an E.G.C. Brandt. Apparently though, Brandt never intended the nomination to be taken seriously. Brandt was to all intents and purposes a dedicated antifascist, and had intended this nomination more as a satiric criticism of the current political debate in Sweden.

Don't let shazy's deceptive comment deceive you.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

HW Bush? What "crimes" did HW Bush commit?

Of course, knowing that HW Bush is 90 years old and ill in health, I doubt he's traveling anywhere much, especially out of the country. He was invited to Selma for the anniversary of the civil rights march, but turned it down because of his health.

ok, for part 1 up there, "if the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts," is just the stuff that...leaked
but I'm thinking now it was his spawn that is fearful of being arrested in Sweden or somewhere...a google of "Bush fears arrest" auto-completes @ "Bush f..."
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...arrest&es_th=1

they already cannot go to much of the Far East, as they--or at least the younger--have been sentenced in absentia in...Malaysia, i think. The noose is tightening on them all, ty God. They have indicted Obama over there, and are committed to convicting him as well. They've been on that for a couple years now, isn't easy, i guess.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

A bit of context should be given here, lest people actually believe Hitler was seriously nominated for a Nobel Peace price:



Don't let shazy's deceptive comment deceive you.

well, my understanding is that that still is not the whole story. There are procedural reasons why i can't nominate you for a Nobel, for instance. If you prefer, see that the Nobel prize was instituted because Alfred Nobel suffered an attack of conscience after a lifetime of shamelessly chasing lucre above life. Obama actually got a Nobel, so his is hopefully undeceptive enough for you. Please see that the point is that cigarettes used to be good for you, Coke was advertised as good for babies, and Dr's were schooled to tell mothers to put it in baby bottles, etc. Ad nauseum.

[n david]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, for part 1 up there, "if the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts," is just the stuff that...leaked
but I'm thinking now it was his spawn that is fearful of being arrested in Sweden or somewhere...a google of "Bush fears arrest" auto-completes @ "Bush f..."
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...arrest&es_th=1

The Swiss links are from 2011.

And again, context, context, context is needed for your "If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts" quote. That was said by HW Bush back in 1992 when talking about the Iran Contra affair.

Originally Posted by shazeep

they already cannot go to much of the Far East, as they--or at least the younger--have been sentenced in absentia in...Malaysia, i think. The noose is tightening on them all, ty God. They have indicted Obama over there, and are committed to convicting him as well. They've been on that for a couple years now, isn't easy, i guess.

Malaysia. They should focus more on airline safety and less on meaningless indictments.