This I say then, Walk in the Spirit...

TGBTG · #1 11-29-2010, 10:12 PM

Gal 5
13For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

Romans 8
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Sam · #2 11-29-2010, 10:33 PM

16 So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. 18 But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses. Galatians 5:16-18 NLT

16 But I say, walk and live [habitually] in the [Holy] Spirit [responsive to and controlled and guided by the Spirit]; then you will certainly not gratify the cravings and desires of the flesh (of human nature without God).
17 For the desires of the flesh are opposed to the [Holy] Spirit, and the [desires of the] Spirit are opposed to the flesh (godless human nature); for these are antagonistic to each other [continually withstanding and in conflict with each other], so that you are not free but are prevented from doing what you desire to do.
18 But if you are guided (led) by the [Holy] Spirit, you are not subject to the Law. Galatians 5:16-18 The Amplified Bible

16 If you are guided by the Spirit, you won't obey your selfish desires. 17 The Spirit and your desires are enemies of each other. They are always fighting each other and keeping you from doing what you feel you should. 18 But if you obey the Spirit, the Law of Moses has no control over you.
Gal 5:16-18 CEV

16-18 My counsel is this: Live freely, animated and motivated by God's Spirit. Then you won't feed the compulsions of selfishness. For there is a root of sinful self-interest in us that is at odds with a free spirit, just as the free spirit is incompatible with selfishness. These two ways of life are antithetical, so that you cannot live at times one way and at times another way according to how you feel on any given day. Why don't you choose to be led by the Spirit and so escape the erratic compulsions of a law-dominated existence? Galatians 5:16-18 The Message

TGBTG · #3 11-29-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

16 So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. 17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. 18 But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses. Galatians 5:16-18 NLT

16 But I say, walk and live [habitually] in the [Holy] Spirit [responsive to and controlled and guided by the Spirit]; then you will certainly not gratify the cravings and desires of the flesh (of human nature without God).
17 For the desires of the flesh are opposed to the [Holy] Spirit, and the [desires of the] Spirit are opposed to the flesh (godless human nature); for these are antagonistic to each other [continually withstanding and in conflict with each other], so that you are not free but are prevented from doing what you desire to do.
18 But if you are guided (led) by the [Holy] Spirit, you are not subject to the Law. Galatians 5:16-18 The Amplified Bible

16 If you are guided by the Spirit, you won't obey your selfish desires. 17 The Spirit and your desires are enemies of each other. They are always fighting each other and keeping you from doing what you feel you should. 18 But if you obey the Spirit, the Law of Moses has no control over you.
Gal 5:16-18 CEV

16-18 My counsel is this: Live freely, animated and motivated by God's Spirit. Then you won't feed the compulsions of selfishness. For there is a root of sinful self-interest in us that is at odds with a free spirit, just as the free spirit is incompatible with selfishness. These two ways of life are antithetical, so that you cannot live at times one way and at times another way according to how you feel on any given day. Why don't you choose to be led by the Spirit and so escape the erratic compulsions of a law-dominated existence? Galatians 5:16-18 The Message

Love all the other translations, but "The Message" just gives me a odd feeling...Just sayin'

*AQuietPlace* · #4 11-30-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Love all the other translations, but "The Message" just gives me a odd feeling...Just sayin'

What do you mean by 'odd feeling'?

mfblume · #5 11-30-2010, 09:12 AM

I think what it means to walk in the Spirit is a MUST for our spiritual growth. By reading Romans 7 on into chapter 8, and Gal 5, "walking in the flesh" is trying to serve God with will power without any faith for God to empower us. "Walking in the Spirit" is relying on the strength of God's Spirit by faith instead of will power.

Many instinctively think "walking after the flesh" means sinning like committing adultery or lying or stealing. Those things are definitely after the flesh, but that was not Paul's point. Paul tried in his own will power to do good, and could not. That is what he called "walking after the flesh". It is serving God in the OLD TESTAMENT MANNER OF "don't do this but rather do that," which is resorting to sheer will power alone. For that reason Rom 7:6 says we should not serve in oldness of the letter but in newness of the Spirit. IOW, do not walk after the flesh but using will power to serve God, but rely on the power of the Spirit.

TGBTG · #6 11-30-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I think what it means to walk in the Spirit is a MUST for our spiritual growth. By reading Romans 7 on into chapter 8, and Gal 5, "walking in the flesh" is trying to serve God with will power without any faith for God to empower us. "Walking in the Spirit" is relying on the strength of God's Spirit by faith instead of will power.

Many instinctively think "walking after the flesh" means sinning like committing adultery or lying or stealing. Those things are definitely after the flesh, but that was not Paul's point. Paul tried in his own will power to do good, and could not. That is what he called "walking after the flesh". It is serving God in the OLD TESTAMENT MANNER OF "don't do this but rather do that," which is resorting to sheer will power alone. For that reason Rom 7:6 says we should not serve in oldness of the letter but in newness of the Spirit. IOW, do not walk after the flesh but using will power to serve God, but rely on the power of the Spirit.

Amen!

Sam · #7 11-30-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I think what it means to walk in the Spirit is a MUST for our spiritual growth. By reading Romans 7 on into chapter 8, and Gal 5, "walking in the flesh" is trying to serve God with will power without any faith for God to empower us. "Walking in the Spirit" is relying on the strength of God's Spirit by faith instead of will power.

Many instinctively think "walking after the flesh" means sinning like committing adultery or lying or stealing. Those things are definitely after the flesh, but that was not Paul's point. Paul tried in his own will power to do good, and could not. That is what he called "walking after the flesh". It is serving God in the OLD TESTAMENT MANNER OF "don't do this but rather do that," which is resorting to sheer will power alone. For that reason Rom 7:6 says we should not serve in oldness of the letter but in newness of the Spirit. IOW, do not walk after the flesh but using will power to serve God, but rely on the power of the Spirit.

amen

Socialite · #8 11-30-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I think what it means to walk in the Spirit is a MUST for our spiritual growth. By reading Romans 7 on into chapter 8, and Gal 5, "walking in the flesh" is trying to serve God with will power without any faith for God to empower us. "Walking in the Spirit" is relying on the strength of God's Spirit by faith instead of will power.

There you have it!

onefaith2 · #9 12-14-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I think what it means to walk in the Spirit is a MUST for our spiritual growth. By reading Romans 7 on into chapter 8, and Gal 5, "walking in the flesh" is trying to serve God with will power without any faith for God to empower us. "Walking in the Spirit" is relying on the strength of God's Spirit by faith instead of will power.

Many instinctively think "walking after the flesh" means sinning like committing adultery or lying or stealing. Those things are definitely after the flesh, but that was not Paul's point. Paul tried in his own will power to do good, and could not. That is what he called "walking after the flesh". It is serving God in the OLD TESTAMENT MANNER OF "don't do this but rather do that," which is resorting to sheer will power alone. For that reason Rom 7:6 says we should not serve in oldness of the letter but in newness of the Spirit. IOW, do not walk after the flesh but using will power to serve God, but rely on the power of the Spirit.

It seems Paul spoke of this in Romans and in Galatians refered to sin

mfblume · #10 12-14-2010, 10:06 AM

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It seems Paul spoke of this in Romans and in Galatians refered to sin

Yes. Walking in the Spirit is done in order to avoid fleshly servitude to God using will power. And in Galatians, Paul noted that walking after the Spirit also stops the lusts of the flesh from working through our lives and instead sees fruit of the Spirit manifest.

In summary, Romans teaches how walking after the Spirit stops "SIN" (singular). Sin in that context is a principle... a "factory" so to speak that produces sins. In Gal., Paul emphasizes the works of the flesh are hindered by walking after the Spirit.