Whose missing and why?

Esther · #1 12-22-2009, 08:38 AM

Can you tell me which tribe is missing and why?

I was surprised to find this out.

Num 13:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
:2 Send thou men, that they may search the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel: of every tribe of their fathers shall ye send a man, every one a ruler among them.
:3 And Moses by the commandment of the LORD sent them from the wilderness of Paran: all those men were heads of the children of Israel.
:4 And these were their names: of the tribe of Reuben, Shammua the son of Zaccur.
:5 Of the tribe of Simeon, Shaphat the son of Hori.
:6 Of the tribe of Judah, Caleb the son of Jephunneh.
:7 Of the tribe of Issachar, Igal the son of Joseph.
:8 Of the tribe of Ephraim, Oshea the son of Nun.
:9 Of the tribe of Benjamin, Palti the son of Raphu.
:10 Of the tribe of Zebulun, Gaddiel the son of Sodi.
:11 Of the tribe of Joseph, namely, of the tribe of Manasseh, Gaddi the son of Susi.
:12 Of the tribe of Dan, Ammiel the son of Gemalli.
:13 Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael.
:14 Of the tribe of Naphtali, Nahbi the son of Vophsi.
:15 Of the tribe of Gad, Geuel the son of Machi.
:16 These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua.

Apocrypha · #2 12-22-2009, 09:21 AM

Easy. The tribe of Levi. There was no point in them conquering and holding land since they were not allotted to own any. It wouldn't make any sense for them to stake out the land ahead of time.

John Atkinson · #3 12-22-2009, 09:21 AM

Levi, as to why as a guess it is because of their service af the tabernacle and the preisthood.

I don't know that though.

Esther · #4 12-22-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson

Levi, as to why as a guess it is because of their service af the tabernacle and the preisthood.

I don't know that though.

Right.

They were not a warring tribe.

When I read ALL the tribes I was surprised to see that the tribe of Levi was not included.

Falla39 · #5 12-22-2009, 09:22 AM

I found this to be interesting!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~lako...pts/C010B.html

I heard Bro. Larry Smith say that the tribe of Dan was missing in Rev. because Dan was
destroyed at Calvary. He was the serpent tribe. The devil was destroyed at Calvary. I
am not explaining it as well as he did, but that's the essence.

Falla39

John Atkinson · #6 12-22-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Easy. The tribe of Levi. There was no point in them conquering and holding land since they were not allotted to own any. It wouldn't make any sense for them to stake out the land ahead of time.

That makes sense since Levi had no inheritance but the Lord. The other tribs all had land allocations.

Esther · #7 12-22-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

I found this to be interesting!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~lako...pts/C010B.html

I heard Bro. Larry Smith say that the tribe of Dan was missing in Rev. because Dan was
destroyed at Calvary. He was the serpent tribe. The devil was destroyed at Calvary. I
am not explaining it as well as he did, but that's the essence.

Falla39

I have heard that Dan's tribe is missing in Rev because of some disobedience. I would have to research further.

Esther · #8 12-22-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Easy. The tribe of Levi. There was no point in them conquering and holding land since they were not allotted to own any. It wouldn't make any sense for them to stake out the land ahead of time.

That is true also.

Monterrey · #9 12-22-2009, 10:11 AM

All the tribes will be reorganized at the coming of the new jerusalem. Then they will walk and live in that holy city.

Soon that is coming!

pelathais · #10 12-22-2009, 10:44 AM

The half-tribe of Manasseh is mentioned, but not his brother Ephraim, and this despite the fact that Joseph had put Ephraim ahead of Manasseh in the blessing (Genesis 48:20).

In Revelation 7:4-8, Joseph is named aside Manasseh and not Ephraim.

Some reconcile this strictly with the absence of Dan. "Ephraim is included when Joseph is named and Manasseh takes Dan's place ..." due to the serpent thing mentioned earlier.

Others say that Ephraim is excluded because of the events listed in Judges 17, and Judges 18. The Levite in the story was from "Mount Ephraim..." The Mountains of Ephraim form the uplands of Samaria, immediately below Mount Gerizim. This included the environs of Shechem where Jesus met the Samaritan women at the well (John 4).

From this angle, both Dan and Ephraim are excluded due to the sins of the Northern Kingdom Israel (1 Kings 12:29 & ff.). Bethel was in Mount Ephraim. Both Dan and Bethel (Ephraim) were sites established to compete with the worship in Jerusalem. It's no wonder they should be excluded from the New Jerusalem.

Jesus seems to allude to this in John 4:19-24.

The woman at the well actually had a case, though: God had appeared to Abram at the site of Shechem (Genesis 12:6-7) and promised the land at this place. Jacob purchased the land from the children of Hamor and erected a shrine there that he called El Elohe Israel. The blessing of the people was done from Mount Gerizim (Deuteronomy 27:12).

But all of the events had more to do with the earthly promises and inheritance for Israel. That seems to also be the point that Jesus is making when He says what He does in John 4:24. And, there was also the unfolding revelation of God that the Northern Kingdom seems to have sort of missed out on. See Exodus 20:24 and compare with Jeremiah 7:11-14.

Jeremiah warns the people of Jerusalem that they are about to be judged just as the Northern Kingdom. After that judgment the people rebuild the House of the Lord at Jerusalem and God promises to fill it with His "glory" (Haggai 2:3-7). There was no report of the Shekinah appearing in the Second Temple, however. When Ezekiel saw the Shekinah leave the First Temple - Ezekiel chapters 1 - 10, that was it... until a babe was brought to the Temple for dedication (Luke 2:21-28).

And notice Luke 2:38 - "those who look for redemption in Jerusalem..." Jerusalem was the focus of redemption. Simeon and Hannah were looking for the redemption and the promise Haggai spoke of concerning the return of the Lord's glory. It was all to be focused on Jerusalem. The other cult centers were a distraction at best, and even a snare. That's what Jesus was telling the woman at the well.

He also offered her the promise of seeing Ezekiel 47 fulfilled, but to get those waters she had to turn her gaze from the earthly inheritance of Shechem and see the spiritual inheritance promised in Jerusalem.