non-response to wedeclare.org

MrMasterMind · #1 09-23-2009, 09:52 PM

There are so many things on this site deserving of response, but in retrospect it appears that a non-response would be best.

I was going to point out that the majority of the first 50 listed appear to be from the APF. From the owner of that forum on down they have openly declared their intention to identify, isolate and run off anyone not holding their standards.

I was going to note that the ones who started this have a monastic mentality and therefore the few men with whom they socialize exclusively serve to delude their perception of reality to the point they honestly don’t know that they are actually the noisy minority.

I was going to say- once again the ultra-cons try and put a different spin on the same ole song. “If you don’t preach against what I preach against you are not holy enough to be my brother.”

Part of the response would have been to point out the spirit of the petition is actually the antithesis of that of the founding fathers of the UPC. They not only oppose the unity statement but some have declared it was a mistake to begin with and the merger should never have happened. The fact is these vigilantes are the ones who actually betray their forefathers.

But to respond in such a manner would be to lower my standards and engage useless debate.

Instead I would rather expend my energy building relationships with men who love Jesus and love each other. Who would rather declare what they are for as opposed to those who preach clothesline salvation. Who are satisfied bringing souls into relationship with Christ, burying them in His Name, seeing them filled with His Spirit, instead of wasting resources on endless circular arguments of ecclesiology.

Since men of that ilk are apparently missing from the declarations list, I will merely not respond.

Theophil · #2 09-23-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

There are so many things on this site deserving of response, but in retrospect it appears that a non-response would be best.

I was going to point out that the majority of the first 50 listed appear to be from the APF. From the owner of that forum on down they have openly declared their intention to identify, isolate and run off anyone not holding their standards.

I was going to note that the ones who started this have a monastic mentality and therefore the few men with whom they socialize exclusively serve to delude their perception of reality to the point they honestly don’t know that they are actually the noisy minority.

I was going to say- once again the ultra-cons try and put a different spin on the same ole song. “If you don’t preach against what I preach against you are not holy enough to be my brother.”

Part of the response would have been to point out the spirit of the petition is actually the antithesis of that of the founding fathers of the UPC. They not only oppose the unity statement but some have declared it was a mistake to begin with and the merger should never have happened. The fact is these vigilantes are the ones who actually betray their forefathers.

But to respond in such a manner would be to lower my standards and engage useless debate.

Instead I would rather expend my energy building relationships with men who love Jesus and love each other. Who would rather declare what they are for as opposed to those who preach clothesline salvation. Who are satisfied bringing souls into relationship with Christ, burying them in His Name, seeing them filled with His Spirit, instead of wasting resources on endless circular arguments of ecclesiology.

Since men of that ilk are apparently missing from the declarations list, I will merely not respond.

Awesome post. Who are you?

mizpeh · #3 09-23-2009, 10:03 PM

LOL!! Please don't respond to anything I write unless you agree with me.

mizpeh · #4 09-23-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophil

Awesome post. Who are you?

Maybe if he took off those dark glasses you might recognize him?

Papabear · #5 09-23-2009, 10:05 PM

Long response for a non response. So, my response to your non response will be shorter seeing I think corresponding with people that lack the ability to value the declaration a waste of my time as well. I can say for myself. I support it, signed it and for those who don't that is there right. However, the UPC has stood for some basic holiness issues. We intend to encourage other men to have the strength and conviction to follow that formula that has produced some of the most wonderful people, ministries, churches and revivals. I am for that. It is what we are for. We declare it.

mizpeh · #6 09-23-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Long response for a non response. So, my response to your non response will be shorter seeing I think corresponding with people that lack the ability to value the declaration a waste of my time as well. I can say for myself. I support it, signed it and for those who don't that is there right. However, the UPC has stood for some basic holiness issues. We intend to encourage other men to have the strength and conviction to follow that formula that has produced some of the most wonderful people, ministries, churches and revivals. I am for that. It is what we are for. We declare it.

I'm sorry, what did you say your name is?

Theophil · #7 09-23-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Long response for a non response. So, my response to your non response will be shorter seeing I think corresponding with people that lack the ability to value the declaration a waste of my time as well. I can say for myself. I support it, signed it and for those who don't that is there right. However, the UPC has stood for some basic holiness issues. We intend to encourage other men to have the strength and conviction to follow that formula that has produced some of the most wonderful people, ministries, churches and revivals. I am for that. It is what we are for. We declare it.

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm sorry, what did you say your name is?

Now I'm LOL.

Papabear · #8 09-23-2009, 10:13 PM

it is not hard to figure out if you click a few buttons.

mizpeh · #9 09-23-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

it is not hard to figure out if you click a few buttons.

I know who you are and I was referencing something you said awhile back, " Just so you know, my name is scott phillips and i approve this message." 2 Corinthians 10:18

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=177

freeatlast · #10 09-23-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

There are so many things on this site deserving of response, but in retrospect it appears that a non-response would be best.

I was going to point out that the majority of the first 50 listed appear to be from the APF. From the owner of that forum on down they have openly declared their intention to identify, isolate and run off anyone not holding their standards.

I was going to note that the ones who started this have a monastic mentality and therefore the few men with whom they socialize exclusively serve to delude their perception of reality to the point they honestly don’t know that they are actually the noisy minority.

I was going to say- once again the ultra-cons try and put a different spin on the same ole song. “If you don’t preach against what I preach against you are not holy enough to be my brother.”

Part of the response would have been to point out the spirit of the petition is actually the antithesis of that of the founding fathers of the UPC. They not only oppose the unity statement but some have declared it was a mistake to begin with and the merger should never have happened. The fact is these vigilantes are the ones who actually betray their forefathers.

But to respond in such a manner would be to lower my standards and engage useless debate.

Instead I would rather expend my energy building relationships with men who love Jesus and love each other. Who would rather declare what they are for as opposed to those who preach clothesline salvation. Who are satisfied bringing souls into relationship with Christ, burying them in His Name, seeing them filled with His Spirit, instead of wasting resources on endless circular arguments of ecclesiology.

Since men of that ilk are apparently missing from the declarations list, I will merely not respond.

Wish I had your knack for writing....very true post. Thanx