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The word God
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?
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09-21-2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: The word God
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Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?
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I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.
I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?
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09-21-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: The word God
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I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.
I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?
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It'd be a transliteration from the Hebrew. Because a transliteration is one's best attempt at making a word that sounds like the word it's coming from, there are variations in pronunciations.
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09-21-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: The word God
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Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?
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Do you mean Jesus, Yeshua, or God, Yahwah/Yahveh?
Either way, Elohim and variations are used frequently to refer to God/Yahveh in the Old Testament, and Jesus/Yeshua makes it clear He *is* God in the New Testament. They are one at the same...so God seems to work in English fairly well.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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09-21-2008, 03:32 PM
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Re: The word God
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Do you mean Jesus, Yeshua, or God, Yahwah/Yahveh?
Either way, Elohim and variations are used frequently to refer to God/Yahveh in the Old Testament, and Jesus/Yeshua makes it clear He *is* God in the New Testament. They are one at the same...so God seems to work in English fairly well.
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Thanks for the lesson. I enjoy learning about other people, life styles and cultures.
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09-21-2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: The word God
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Thanks for the lesson. I enjoy learning about other people, life styles and cultures.
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Me too.
You might enjoy www.allon.org (and the church Robert Allon pastors is www.rfww.org) if you want to learn more about this. There's a links page on the Allon ministries site, there's some interesting reading on those sites too.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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09-21-2008, 05:55 PM
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Re: The word God
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Originally Posted by Joelel
Was Yahshua ever referred to as God. I been told the name Yahshua was changed to God.What do you say ? Did Yahshua ever mean for man to refer to him as God ?
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Where was the name Yeshua changed to God?
Yeshua, however is the contracted form of Yhoshua which means YHWH salvation
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-05-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: The word God
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Originally Posted by jimmyrrs
I'm not sure. I have read the following. YESHUA, is believed by some scholars and religious groups to be the Hebrew or Aramaic name for Jesus. It is extensively used by Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians, as well as others, who wish to use what they believe to be the original Hebraic pronunciation of Jesus' name. This pronunciation and spelling, as with many religious and scholarly issues, remains the subject of ongoing debate.
I would like to know where you got the name YAHSHUA?
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Sorry,this thread got covered up fast and then I forgot about it. I think my thought was,If a person referred to the creator as God,how does a person know what god is being talked about if he is not referred to by name ? There are many gods.
You can do a search on God's name.
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?...E&q=Yehowshuwa
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?...M=IE7RE&q=YHWH
http://www.plim.org/JesusOrigin.htm
http://www.newhopebiblechurch.info/whoisjesus.html
And so on.
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11-06-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: The word God
God, in the bible, is clear as to WHO it is speaking to in both context, grammar and definition.
In the NT there is one word used, Theos, And the bible says clearly there is ONE Theos. IF Jesus is called THEOS Jesus must be THAT theos.
THEOS is not a name.
Second THEOS is used with definite articles. THE Theos or THE GOD. For example if I said "The President" you would know there is just ONE...if I said A president, you'd know I meant one of many.
Jesus was called THE God...for example He is Emmanuel, Then God WITH us.
Thomas called him "The God of me and The Lord of me"
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-06-2008, 11:40 PM
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Re: The word God
In Hebrew the words for God are El, Eloah, Elohim.
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