The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post

[StMark]

I think it's time to come clean about this issue. I know a lot of
you are going to find what I have to say unbelievable
perhaps my bluntness makes it hard to swallow, but I am dead serious about this.

Here are the real reasons why many Cons have left, formed
other groups and rarely come around anymore. Now, please
don't attack me. I'm just telling WHY. I just want your comments
and hopefully some good honest interaction

It's partly because of a few certain posters. that is true. But it goes
way beyond posters being disrespectful.Their is a common held belief that this forum
is swaying a lot of vunerable people (traditional Pentecostals) to question and give up their
convictions and cause them to backslide from the truth. It is believed that this forum or many members here
are out to sway others out of the standards and that it is working.
It is grieving a lot of people and they can't bear to see what has happend.

some would go as far as to say that AFF has an agenda. Others
would say that Certain individuals have an agenda. I'm not sure
this is the case BUT I am telling you that this IS indeed what
is thought by many and I wont take that back.

Even though we all got along on FCF, many are seeing the results
of what a forum can do over the years in changing peoples' long held beliefs
and it's troublesome to a lot of the ministry.

Now, you can brush this off and try to forget about it, that's fine.
but at least you know the real truth now unless you choose to live
in denial. I don't expect a lot of people to come clean about this
and some wont want to believe it's true, but sorry, it is nonetheless
true.

For a while I was puzzled as to why there was a mass exodus
and sought out to find out why. I was a little apprehensive about
posting this But I feel it's time to come clean about this so that
everyone knows the real deal

[ReformedDave]

Mark, you said

Even though we all got along on FCF, many are seeing the results
of what a forum can do over the years in changing peoples' long held beliefs and it's troublesome to a lot of the ministry.

Who has changed their beliefs?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by StMark

I think it's time to come clean about this issue. I know a lot of
you are going to find what I have to say unbelievable
perhaps my bluntness makes it hard to swallow, but I am dead serious about this.

Here are the real reasons why many Cons have left, formed
other groups and rarely come around anymore. Now, please
don't attack me. I'm just telling WHY. I just want your comments
on it and hopefully some good honest interaction

It's partly because of a few certain posters. that is true. But it goes
way beyond posters being disrespectful.Their is a common held belief that this forum is swaying a lot of vunerable people (traditional Pentecostals) to question and give up their convictions and cause them to backslide from the truth. It is believed that this forum or many members here are out to sway others out of the standards and that it is working. It is grieving a lot of people and they can't bear to see what has happend.

some would go as far as to say that AFF has an agenda. Others
would say that Certain individuals have an agenda. I'm not sure
this is the case BUT I am telling you that this IS indeed what
is thought by many and I wont take that back.

Even though we all got along on FCF, many are seeing the results
of what a forum can do over the years in changing peoples' long held beliefs and it's troublesome to a lot of the ministry.

Now, you can brush this off and try to forget about it, that's fine.
but at least you know the real truth now unless you choose to live
in denial. I don't expect a lot of people to come clean about this
and some wont want to believe it's true, but sorry, it is nonetheless
true.

For a while I was puzzled as to why there was a mass exodus
and sought out to find out why. I was a little apprehensive about
posting this But I feel it's time to come clean about this so that
everyone knows the real deal

Where did you get your info, Mark?

Was it from one or two, or even three ex-AFFers? If not, how many?

Just curious........just wondering how many Cons it takes to qualify as "many".

Originally Posted by StMark

I think it's time to come clean about this issue. I know a lot of
you are going to find what I have to say unbelievable
perhaps my bluntness makes it hard to swallow, but I am dead serious about this.

Here are the real reasons why many Cons have left, formed
other groups and rarely come around anymore. Now, please
don't attack me. I'm just telling WHY. I just want your comments
and hopefully some good honest interaction

It's partly because of a few certain posters. that is true. But it goes
way beyond posters being disrespectful.Their is a common held belief that this forum
is swaying a lot of vunerable people (traditional Pentecostals) to question and give up their
convictions and cause them to backslide from the truth. It is believed that this forum or many members here
are out to sway others out of the standards and that it is working.
It is grieving a lot of people and they can't bear to see what has happend.

some would go as far as to say that AFF has an agenda. Others
would say that Certain individuals have an agenda. I'm not sure
this is the case BUT I am telling you that this IS indeed what
is thought by many and I wont take that back.

Even though we all got along on FCF, many are seeing the results
of what a forum can do over the years in changing peoples' long held beliefs
and it's troublesome to a lot of the ministry.

Now, you can brush this off and try to forget about it, that's fine.
but at least you know the real truth now unless you choose to live
in denial. I don't expect a lot of people to come clean about this
and some wont want to believe it's true, but sorry, it is nonetheless
true.

For a while I was puzzled as to why there was a mass exodus
and sought out to find out why. I was a little apprehensive about
posting this But I feel it's time to come clean about this so that
everyone knows the real deal

St. Mark.. here is my opinion.. if folks are so ungrounded in their faith that this forum can sway them.. then some Pastor has failed miserably in grounding them in something besides shouting every service.... or they are finding what he has taught them is pure junk...... the Pastor with the spiritually mature church would welcome this forum as a test to what they really believe

[StMark]

Don't put me on the prosecution list and i'm not naming names

[rgcraig]

St. Mark.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by dr. Vaughn

st. Mark.. Here is my opinion.. If folks are so ungrounded in their faith that this forum can sway them.. Then some pastor has failed miserably in grounding them in something besides shouting every service.... Or they are finding what he has taught them is pure junk...... The pastor with the spiritually mature church would welcome this forum as a test to what they really believe

bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by StMark

Don't put me on the prosection list and i'm not naming names

Now that's funny!!!!!!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by StMark

Don't put me on the prosection list and i'm not naming names

What's a "prosection" list? Did you mean "prosecution"? Or "persecution"?

And, apparently, you aren't familiar with how the evidence works.

When you use phrases like "many cons are leaving" because they've seen "many people change their beliefs", you have to qualify those terms.

Otherwise, I'll just assume that you were talking to one disgruntled ex-AFFer, who said "many people are being swayed", and I give absolutely ZERO credence to that statement.

Now, if you can provide facts and figures, I'll happily listen to your assertion.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

St. Mark.. here is my opinion.. if folks are so ungrounded in their faith that this forum can sway them.. then some Pastor has failed miserably in grounding them in something besides shouting every service.... or they are finding what he has taught them is pure junk...... the Pastor with the spiritually mature church would welcome this forum as a test to what they really believe

The internet has changed a lot of things in our lives.
some for the good and some for the bad.

There's more knowlege, good and bad. incidents of porn and
child abuse is up, perhaps failed marriages. I'm certainly
not blaming AFF for that just making a point that the internet
is a mix of good and bad