The UPCI OFFERING BENEFITS TO ITS MEMBERS

[Dora]

Is it finally going to happen? Do you think the UPCI will finally step up and offer a benefits package to its ministers including health/life insurance, 401k, retirement support, pensions?

Do you think several Tulsa recruits could be persuaded to stay with the mothership if they were offered benefits?

Why are elderly UPCI preachers allowed to waste away without financial support in their senior years after all that they have contributed?

Why do preacher's wives and children have to go without insurance because their husband don't have "company" health insurance?

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dora

Is it finally going to happen? Do you think the UPCI will finally step up and offer a benefits package to its ministers including health/life insurance, 401k, retirement support, pensions?

Do you think several Tulsa recruits could be persuaded to stay with the mothership if they were offered benefits?

Why are elderly UPCI preachers allowed to waste away without financial support in their senior years after all that they have contributed?

Why do preacher's wives and children have to go without insurance because their husband don't have "company" health insurance?

I'm sure the old timers knew the sacrifice they were making. I never heard them say they would have done otherwise.

[Dora]

Rev. V.A. Guidroz, C. G. Weeks, Bro. C.L. Dees, etc. etc. All these men died without any kind of retirement plan or health care in their senior years. Even when Headquarters was made aware of Bro. Dees's situation, little or no support was offered. Is that okay?

[Dora]

When a pastor founds a church and works to take it from fledgling stage to fully operating and thriving work then a younger preacher comes and takes over the operations of the church, shouldn't the younger paster ensure that the founding pastor is taken care of in their waning years? Wouldn't that be the appropriate and right thing to do?

(Especially when the promise is made publicly to support the founding pastor until death.)

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Dora

Rev. V.A. Guidroz, C. G. Weeks, Bro. C.L. Dees, etc. etc. All these men died without any kind of retirement plan or health care in their senior years. Even when Headquarters was made aware of Bro. Dees's situation, little or no support was offered. Is that okay?

My father never expected to get anything from the UPC....and planned accordingly.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Dora

When a pastor founds a church and works to take it from fledgling stage to fully operating and thriving work then a younger preacher comes and takes over the operations of the church, shouldn't the younger paster ensure that the founding pastor is taken care of in their waning years? Wouldn't that be the appropriate and right thing to do?

Yes it would.......but

[Dora]

Maybe it would be a good thing to implement these programs now that the UPCI is no longer a spring chicken. It is a well-established organization and it's about time they put some benefits on the table for their members.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dora

When a pastor founds a church and works to take it from fledgling stage to fully operating and thriving work then a younger preacher comes and takes over the operations of the church, shouldn't the younger paster ensure that the founding pastor is taken care of in their waning years? Wouldn't that be the appropriate and right thing to do?

(Especially when the promise is made publicly to support the founding pastor until death.)

That does happen in some cases.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Dora

Rev. V.A. Guidroz, C. G. Weeks, Bro. C.L. Dees, etc. etc. All these men died without any kind of retirement plan or health care in their senior years. Even when Headquarters was made aware of Bro. Dees's situation, little or no support was offered. Is that okay?

Those and a thousand more just like them. Is it OK. No, not really.

[Dora]

So how 'bout it...do think this could ever be a possibility with the UPCI?