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01-05-2008, 07:22 PM
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The Supreme Need Of The Hour......
I heard that Bro Andrew Urshan wrote a book called "The Supreme Need Of The Hour" I have always wanted to get it and read it.
An overview of the book says that the prevailing need is a prayer of faith for whatever the need.
Do you feel that this is so?
Do you feel that it is going to take just a little more than we have been doing in the past to get the job done?
Do you think that you pray enough? Intense enough?
Do you feel a wooing coming at your spirit from the prayer closet?
Do you feel that the need is growing bigger,deeper?
Or has it all become routine?
Anyone?
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01-05-2008, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
I heard that Bro Andrew Urshan wrote a book called "The Supreme Need Of The Hour" I have always wanted to get it and read it.
An overview of the book says that the prevailing need is a prayer of faith for whatever the need.
Do you feel that this is so?
Do you feel that it is going to take just a little more than we have been doing in the past to get the job done?
Do you think that you pray enough? Intense enough?
Do you feel a wooing coming at your spirit from the prayer closet?
Do you feel that the need is growing bigger,deeper?
Or has it all become routine?
Anyone?
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I have the book.
1. There are times that I do, depending on the condition of my heart. The heart has seasons. You cannot manufacture a season. All you can do is prepare.
2. When you pray without ceasing, there comes a time that a wooing of the spirit will come to call you away...sometimes for hours on end. I love it when this happens.
3. Yes, the need is greater than ever since we have come to depend upon our own understanding, mainly concerning doctrinal matters while resisting the the affectionate call of the heart.
Too often it is a burdensome routine. It should not be this way.
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01-05-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
I have the book.
1. There are times that I do, depending on the condition of my heart. The heart has seasons. You cannot manufacture a season. All you can do is prepare.
2. When you pray without ceasing, there comes a time that a wooing of the spirit will come to call you away...sometimes for hours on end. I love it when this happens.
3. Yes, the need is greater than ever since we have come to depend upon our own understanding, mainly concerning doctrinal matters while resisting the the affectionate call of the heart.
Too often it is a burdensome routine. It should not be this way.
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To a great extent that is what is happening I feel.
Prayer has become a heavy burden rather than a delight.
That is sad.
I do feel the Spirit calling us to prayer.
In the Chinese characters the same character that spells out "Crisis" also means "Opportunity" as well.
That will be "2008!"
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01-05-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
To a great extent that is what is happening I feel.
Prayer has become a heavy burden rather than a delight.
That is sad.
I do feel the Spirit calling us to prayer.
In the Chinese characters the same character that spells out "Crisis" also means "Opportunity" as well.
That will be "2008!"
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Yes, brother, I feel the samething too. We need to couple our praying with some fasting. We are far too slack in that department too.
May the spirit of the Holy One move upon us and call us to that secret place of divine communion.
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01-05-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
I heard that Bro Andrew Urshan wrote a book called "The Supreme Need Of The Hour" I have always wanted to get it and read it.
An overview of the book says that the prevailing need is a prayer of faith for whatever the need.
Do you feel that this is so?
Do you feel that it is going to take just a little more than we have been doing in the past to get the job done?
Do you think that you pray enough? Intense enough?
Do you feel a wooing coming at your spirit from the prayer closet?
Do you feel that the need is growing bigger,deeper?
Or has it all become routine?
Anyone?
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Part of the problem is that Pentecost has become to common and routine.
Remember how excited everyone is when they get the Holy Ghost. That's one reason new converts bring more people to God then the older saints.
I've read about C.P. Kilgore and his wife praying up to (10) yours a day when they needed a break through in a new town. After a few days of this people would hit the altar praying for mercy.
I've also read about how in one town the school superintendent litterly beat R.G. Kilgore, that holy roller kid, then sent him home and told him not to come back to school. The Kilgores cleaned him up prayed for him and sent him back to school (I believe it was) the next day. That superintendent got the Holy Ghost not to long after that.
I have two books by Andrew D. Urshan. One is "The Supreme Need of the Hour" and the other is "The Life of Andrew Bar David Urshan. I have not read either one in several years. But there is a couple of things that I remember from one or the other. I don't remember exactly how it's written but I believe it said we don't pray, sing and preach enough about the name of Jesus. That was years ago, you can imagine how deficient we are now.
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01-05-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
Yes, brother, I feel the samething too. We need to couple our praying with some fasting. We are far too slack in that department too.
May the spirit of the Holy One move upon us and call us to that secret place of divine communion.
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Boy Fasting, how many do that anymore?
Is it really taught like it is supposed to be?
Are we that "self indulgent in North America?
Have we for got to deny ourself?
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01-05-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
Part of the problem is that Pentecost has become to common and routine.
Remember how excited everyone is when they get the Holy Ghost. That's one reason new converts bring more people to God then the older saints.
I've read about C.P. Kilgore and his wife praying up to (10) yours a day when they needed a break through in a new town. After a few days of this people would hit the altar praying for mercy.
I've also read about how in one town the school superintendent litterly beat R.G. Kilgore, that holy roller kid, then sent him home and told him not to come back to school. The Kilgores cleaned him up prayed for him and sent him back to school (I believe it was) the next day. That superintendent got the Holy Ghost not to long after that.
I have two books by Andrew D. Urshan. One is "The Supreme Need of the Hour" and the other is "The Life of Andrew Bar David Urshan. I have not read either one in several years. But there is a couple of things that I remember from one or the other. I don't remember exactly how it's written but I believe it said we don't pray, sing and preach enough about the name of Jesus. That was years ago, you can imagine how deficient we are now.
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Three or four times in our services recently a message in tongues have gone forth, the interpretation had this included "If you will lift me up said I not that I would draw all people unto me?"
I don't deny that one element is worship, another element is this, is he lifted up to have the pre-eminence in our lives?
That is a question we can all ask ourselves.
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01-05-2008, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
I heard that Bro Andrew Urshan wrote a book called "The Supreme Need Of The Hour" I have always wanted to get it and read it.
An overview of the book says that the prevailing need is a prayer of faith for whatever the need.
Do you feel that this is so?
Do you feel that it is going to take just a little more than we have been doing in the past to get the job done?
Do you think that you pray enough? Intense enough?
Do you feel a wooing coming at your spirit from the prayer closet?
Do you feel that the need is growing bigger,deeper?
Or has it all become routine?
Anyone?
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Here's a link Bro. Ron.
http://www.amazon.com/Supreme-Need-H...9584173&sr=1-4
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-05-2008, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
I heard that Bro Andrew Urshan wrote a book called "The Supreme Need Of The Hour" I have always wanted to get it and read it.
An overview of the book says that the prevailing need is a prayer of faith for whatever the need.
Do you feel that this is so?
Do you feel that it is going to take just a little more than we have been doing in the past to get the job done?
Do you think that you pray enough? Intense enough?
Do you feel a wooing coming at your spirit from the prayer closet?
Do you feel that the need is growing bigger,deeper?
Or has it all become routine?
Anyone?
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Here's a link Bro. Ron.
http://www.amazon.com/Supreme-Need-H...9584173&sr=1-4
__________________
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-05-2008, 07:57 PM
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