President Trump Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

This weekend my friend Aaron and I went to the VA cemetery to visit our dad's graves. We're both military and not only do we both suffer from a degree of PTSD, but we know many who do. We also know men who have ended their lives because they couldn't get control of their PTSD symptoms.

Yes, I truly pray that God miraculously heal us all. However, if a medication will help someone, or keep a vet alive, along enough to receive a miraculous healing, I have no issues with it. Vets will tell you that it isn't uncommon to have to take a dozen pills to treat PTSD symptoms. Those with severe PTSD who are taking cannabis in states where it is legal are down to one or two without the mind numbing side effects of the pills typically prescribed.

I don't believe it is a sin to take any form of medication.

This is where we have come as a people.

The above post is to elicit one thing, an emotional response. We will have posts which will do that from time to time due to this forum being a religious forum. Yet, allow me to point some things out. Chris and Aaron go to visit graves. We immediately cut to read about suicides due to PTSD, We then read how Chris hopes that all may be healed BUT that isn't the case. Because medication no matter what it is or what it will do in the short or long run isn't an issue. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, people who are outside Jesus name would have to resort to whatever. That is because they are outside of the covering and guidance of the power of God. From the years of reading Chris' posts he flips from one pole to another. He will come off like some Holy Joe spouting prayers, and appearing so spiritual, and on the other side, he becomes this secular political religious poster giving us his politically correct views of how we should fit in.

Is PTSD only an issue with Veterans? Our society will flat out tell you NO WAY. PTSD is carried by everyone who ever drew breath in some degree or another. But Chris is a 24kt gold drama queen. His Tolstoy Ballet is comprised of eliciting emotion. Instead of critiquing logic after examining all evidence presented. Marijuana now helps people? Seriously? All of a sudden now it helps people? I'm not talking the campy foolishness of the old movies like Refer Madness, which showed the pot caused psychopathic behavior. It isn't PCP. or FLAKKA. Yet, it is a strong psychotropic drug.

On NPR recently, the liberals argued for using LSD in therapy? While some may laugh, yet this is no laughing matter. If some idiot doctor or psychiatrist came along advocating it as a treatment for PTSD. You can bet your Lucchese boots that Aquila Chris would be waving the flag for the use of LSD for those who have PTSD. He would use emotional manipulation instead of the logic of the Gospel. I'll tell you this, Chris has spent a lot of time away from you Apostolics. With his hanging out with the bless me clubs of lets Bible share. Religious group therapy. Praying for healings amount to whispers, and piously bowed heads among the group. There was a song by McFalls called places I've been. It speaks seeing eyes being opened and the lame walk again. Also being at the bedside of a dear saint of God, when the doctors said no hope was in sight, BUT, the family gathered in and begun bombarding heaven, and you could hear someone praying all night. The doctors said it had to be a miracle. This is what it is the true and only treatment! This is what I'm talking about! Not pointing to someone and telling them to light up a dube while we have silent prayer.


Struggling, thoughts of suicide? Listen readers smoking dubes because you are depressed, struggling with thoughts of suicide isn't a new thing. People have been doing that since they came back from WWII and Vietnam. Now they legalize it and think something has changed? Also, when people like Aquila tell you that people are helped by marijuana they are incredibly misinformed, and are just Polly Parroting what they have heard through Politically Correct media. We have no proof of anyone being helped by marijuana usage. He can post YouTubes all day and night, tear jerking stories which will make you cry. Yet, the facts are the facts. Psychotropic medications are the door way to nowhere.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Aquila, couple of questions.
1. Why is it that on various threads on this forum the same topic is posted about cannabis? It seems to be peppered all over the forum.

2. Why does it seem like you want to convince every reader that medical cannabis is ok. If your going to use it then why not just use it. Why the debate? Again it seems as if you need everyones approval to justify.

3. Just reading your post it as if you have this struggle and you want someone to give you the "GO" so you can be justified in using marijuana. I doubt any Apostolic would give you that approval.

Aquila, this is the post. Bro, you see this? Bro, please consider these words above. This is someone who has been reading the entire forum and notices what you have been doing as far as the refer issue is concerned. My observation has a different conclusion because you just don't do the above with cannabis, but with other subjects you have in your mantra. Chris? What is it bro? Where would you like us to follow you? Then if we did, would we even be better off?

[Evang.Benincasa]

You need peace? It won't be found in a joint, it will be found in a mighty tower a rock of defense.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Aquila, couple of questions.
1. Why is it that on various threads on this forum the same topic is posted about cannabis? It seems to be peppered all over the forum.

I was asking myself the same thing. lol

Many of these topics are interconnected. For example, on this thread we were discussing Trump, the Nobel Peace Prize, and our society. In post #40, a statement was made that our prison population has skyrocketed in the past 25 years. Indicating that we are moving towards a police state. Current immigration policy was also criticized. Well, since someone made mention of the skyrocketing prison population, it is only logical to mention that the majority of those who are incarcerated are incarcerated based on drug charges, not violent crimes. This presents the notion of legalization. And in discussing legalization comes the current findings regarding the medicinal use of cannabis and other substances. Of course, the Pharisees can't allow a simple statement to remain unaddressed. They have to latch on to that statement and spend page after page of insults, demoralization, and mischaracterization because of their fear that things are indeed changing.

We cannot discuss liberty without being willing to see that we have more citizens incarcerated per capita than the USSR ever had. Once recognized we can't avoid noting that the majority of those incarcerated are incarcerated on drug charges, not for violent crimes. And it goes on from there. Please don't believe the mischaracterization that I'm on her just advertising cannabis. It's part of the social discussion. When our growing prison population is mentioned, certainly the reasons why they are incarcerated and possible solutions (like legalization) will be mentioned.

2. Why does it seem like you want to convince every reader that medical cannabis is ok. If your going to use it then why not just use it. Why the debate? Again it seems as if you need everyones approval to justify.

I only posted a single thread in the politics section where I admit that I wanted to examine the claim that cannabis was a "spirit", present what it really is, and have readers consider it's medicinal value. Beyond that, I've only brought it up as one of several points when relevant. It's the opposition that then takes those statements and begins the litany of insults, condemnations, exaggerations, and mischaracterizations. Now, I could just ignore these, but sometimes they are so bad distortions of truth, I have to address them. Had no Pharisee chosen to jump on the band wagon and make my statement an issue, it would have come and gone as a single statement in a broader conversation. Blame the mental midgets who want to harp on the issue for 5 or more pages because they smell fresh meat and want to demonize and demoralize someone for sport. They have no real concern or interest in me, vets with PTSD, or anyone else who have been mentioned in relation to the subject. They're only goal is to post the most outlandish insults, insinuations, and mischaracterizations possible because the truth is not in them.

3. Just reading your post it as if you have this struggle and you want someone to give you the "GO" so you can be justified in using marijuana. I doubt any Apostolic would give you that approval.

Don't allow the barking dogs to color the water. They're beating a dead horse and hurling insults and mischaracterizations like a pit of vipers. Like I said, if that would cease, my statements would be only small blurbs in a broader conversation.

In my state medical cannabis is legal. One simply has to have a doctor sign off and register to legally take it. In other states, cannabis is completely legal. If I wanted to take it, I'd get enrolled in the medical cannabis program. I've talked to a few men of God about it and they admonish caution, but compared to the pills the VA would want to prescribe me, they see cannabis as the lesser of two evils. So none of this is about me taking it. They want to make it about me and cannabis instead of addressing the logic of the statements I make. If they can focus on me, mischaracterize me, lie about me, then... they can ignore my points and not address the topic. It's the way of small minds. I pray you can see through it.

If you're not sure of what I'm telling you... read their posts. Give me a fair hearing here. Try to be objective. Read my passing statement and then the firestorm that follows. As you read through, note every personal insult, instance of calling me out of my name, every attempt to place guilt by association (note that they are associations I never mentioned, and sometimes, I don't even know what they're associating me with, but it's clearly not good). Then notice how they post.. post, after post, after post, and as you read through each one, again note the insults, the tone, the distortion of my actual points. I'm confident you'll see it. And then ask yourself... why aren't they ever corrected by the admins for their harassment? Because that's truly what it is. This is a discussion forum. We discuss things. We don't have to always agree. And disagreements can bring opportunity to have deeper dialogue. But what they are doing is clear and blatant harassment.

Now, ask yourself... why the hate? Anyone can feel it in their posts. If their motives are pure, why the venom?

Perhaps the one's who truly need smoke something to mellow out are those who can't just stick to the topic and have to go so personal. Oh well. Until the Admins address the harassment, there's little I can do.

[n david]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I was asking myself the same thing. lol

Many of these topics are interconnected. For example, on this thread we were discussing Trump, the Nobel Peace Prize, and our society. In post #40, a statement was made that our prison population has skyrocketed in the past 25 years. Indicating that we are moving towards a police state. Current immigration policy was also criticized. Well, since someone made mention of the skyrocketing prison population, it is only logical to mention that the majority of those who are incarcerated are incarcerated based on drug charges, not violent crimes. This presents the notion of legalization. And in discussing legalization comes the current findings regarding the medicinal use of cannabis and other substances. Of course, the Pharisees can't allow a simple statement to remain unaddressed. They have to latch on to that statement and spend page after page of insults, demoralization, and mischaracterization because of their fear that things are indeed changing.

We cannot discuss liberty without being willing to see that we have more citizens incarcerated per capita than the USSR ever had. Once recognized we can't avoid noting that the majority of those incarcerated are incarcerated on drug charges, not for violent crimes. And it goes on from there. Please don't believe the mischaracterization that I'm on her just advertising cannabis. It's part of the social discussion. When our growing prison population is mentioned, certainly the reasons why they are incarcerated and possible solutions (like legalization) will be mentioned.



I only posted a single thread in the politics section where I admit that I wanted to examine the claim that cannabis was a "spirit", present what it really is, and have readers consider it's medicinal value. Beyond that, I've only brought it up as one of several points when relevant. It's the opposition that then takes those statements and begins the litany of insults, condemnations, exaggerations, and mischaracterizations. Now, I could just ignore these, but sometimes they are so bad distortions of truth, I have to address them. Had no Pharisee chosen to jump on the band wagon and make my statement an issue, it would have come and gone as a single statement in a broader conversation. Blame the mental midgets who want to harp on the issue for 5 or more pages because they smell fresh meat and want to demonize and demoralize someone for sport. They have no real concern or interest in me, vets with PTSD, or anyone else who have been mentioned in relation to the subject. They're only goal is to post the most outlandish insults, insinuations, and mischaracterizations possible because the truth is not in them.



Don't allow the barking dogs to color the water. They're beating a dead horse and hurling insults and mischaracterizations like a pit of vipers. Like I said, if that would cease, my statements would be only small blurbs in a broader conversation.

In my state medical cannabis is legal. One simply has to have a doctor sign off and register to legally take it. In other states, cannabis is completely legal. If I wanted to take it, I'd get enrolled in the medical cannabis program. I've talked to a few men of God about it and they admonish caution, but compared to the pills the VA would want to prescribe me, they see cannabis as the lesser of two evils. So none of this is about me taking it. They want to make it about me and cannabis instead of addressing the logic of the statements I make. If they can focus on me, mischaracterize me, lie about me, then... they can ignore my points and not address the topic. It's the way of small minds. I pray you can see through it.

If you're not sure of what I'm telling you... read their posts. Give me a fair hearing here. Try to be objective. Read my passing statement and then the firestorm that follows. As you read through, note every personal insult, instance of calling me out of my name, every attempt to place guilt by association (note that they are associations I never mentioned, and sometimes, I don't even know what they're associating me with, but it's clearly not good). Then notice how they post.. post, after post, after post, and as you read through each one, again note the insults, the tone, the distortion of my actual points. I'm confident you'll see it. And then ask yourself... why aren't they ever corrected by the admins for their harassment? Because that's truly what it is. This is a discussion forum. We discuss things. We don't have to always agree. And disagreements can bring opportunity to have deeper dialogue. But what they are doing is clear and blatant harassment.

Now, ask yourself... why the hate? Anyone can feel it in their posts. If their motives are pure, why the venom?

Perhaps the one's who truly need smoke something to mellow out are those who can't just stick to the topic and have to go so personal. Oh well. Until the Admins address the harassment, there's little I can do.

I think we could all have knock down drag out debate without getting personal for sure. And for those who get too personal and insult someone. Thats between them and God. And for the insulted suck it up, dont sweat it and continue to make the case for your position. Everyone should expect their opinions to be challenged.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I think we could all have knock down drag out debate without getting personal for sure. And for those who get too personal and insult someone. Thats between them and God. And for the insulted suck it up, dont sweat it and continue to make the case for your position. Everyone should expect their opinions to be challenged.

Amen. lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Don't allow the barking dogs to color the water. They're beating a dead horse and hurling insults and mischaracterizations like a pit of vipers. Like I said, if that would cease, my statements would be only small blurbs in a broader conversation.

Barking dogs at a howling wolf. Chris, may I remind you that you cannot claim foul when your eye is planked.

Originally Posted by Aquila

In my state medical cannabis is legal. One simply has to have a doctor sign off and register to legally take it. In other states, cannabis is completely legal. If I wanted to take it, I'd get enrolled in the medical cannabis program.

Chris, this is how you confuse. You claimed that it was your girlfriend who had misgivings about your so called Quaker Marriage. So, you wanted to make it legal. Here you do the same thing with weed. You make a huge case for its use, and then say you wouldn't take it. Hence the reason I call you the shapeshifter. Trying to get you to come clean is like trying to nil Jello-O to a wall. These aren't attacks. Venom? Please, that is so weak, you are a man, man up.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've talked to a few men of God about it and they admonish caution, but compared to the pills the VA would want to prescribe me, THEY SEE cannabis as the lesser of two evils.

Men of God? Were these men part of the Christian group session you were part of? Tell your men of God, that the lesser of two evils is still evil. Therefore making their advice Biblically worthless.

Originally Posted by Aquila

So none of this is about me taking it. They want to make it about me and cannabis instead of addressing the logic of the statements I make. If they can focus on me, mischaracterize me, lie about me, then... they can ignore my points and not address the topic. It's the way of small minds. I pray you can see through it.

Stop, it becomes about YOU when YOU give YOUR opinions. Just like we WE give OUR opinions. Like I have said before this forum is of no use to you other than you leading who you can astray. You aren't looking to take anything. You are looking to poison the well. Maybe get someone to PM you so you can lead them unhindered into spiritual oblivion.

Originally Posted by Aquila

If you're not sure of what I'm telling you... read their posts. Give me a fair hearing here.

Read their posts and give Chris a fair hearing? That's odd. Chris, if I waa never ever a member of this forum you would still get objections. This is an Apostolic forum. Do the Atheists who have posted here and were given objections to their message prove that their message was sound? Our resident phony Muslim, WalksInIslam. Is his message true because he gets lines of dissenters. Another thing, your illogical arguments based on how you are precieved doesn't help your cause.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Try to be objective. Read my passing statement and then the firestorm that follows. As you read through, note every personal insult, instance of calling me out of my name, every attempt to place guilt by association (note that they are associations I never mentioned, and sometimes, I don't even know what they're associating me with, but it's clearly not good). Then notice how they post.. post, after post, after post, and as you read through each one, again note the insults, the tone, the distortion of my actual points. I'm confident you'll see it. And then ask yourself... why aren't they ever corrected by the admins for their harassment? Because that's truly what it is. This is a discussion forum. We discuss things. We don't have to always agree. And disagreements can bring opportunity to have deeper dialogue. But what they are doing is clear and blatant harassment.

Chris, why do you choose topics that YOU KNOw will elicit certain responses from even denominal Christians? Let alone Apostolic Pentecostals.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Now, ask yourself... why the hate? Anyone can feel it in their posts. If their motives are pure, why the venom?

That's what I would like to know? Why do you post things like eating cornflakes in the nude with your live in girlfriend? Smoking dope will help depression and fear in people? Aposto1ness is right. You are looking for a go ahead? I don't think you want permission. I think you get exactly what you are looking for, so you can turn it around for your own advantages.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Perhaps the one's who truly need smoke something to mellow out are those who can't just stick to the topic and have to go so personal. Oh well. Until the Admins address the harassment, there's little I can do.

So, what do you think the Admins should do about your telling us we need to smoke pot? Aquila, physician heal thyself.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I think we could all have knock down drag out debate without getting personal for sure. And for those who get too personal and insult someone. Thats between them and God. And for the insulted suck it up, dont sweat it and continue to make the case for your position. Everyone should expect their opinions to be challenged.

Amen.