Sarah Palin, Todd Bentley, and Dominion Theology

[Walk and Talk]

It seems many churches, ministers, and ministries thought Todd Bently was the latest gift from God. Too many times these days people are looking for a spiritual crystal ball in any form. Todd was speaking things that tickled the ears, and people looked no further. Discernment is woefully lacking in almost all our churches. Too often what is called discernment is not.

Many of these supporters of Todd Bently are now hanging their head in shame for not using discernment. Hopefully her church is repenting of that support of him and his like.

It isn't just that he was doing bizarre things, it should have been clear to all when he said that two angels were giving him his power and anointing. It should have been very clear when he said the angel Emma was feminine and soft in nature. Angel glorification is growing fast in our churches. You don't even need discernment to know this is wrong.

Anyway, hopefully her church has seen the light and will quit seeking any spiritual crystal ball that will tell them what they want to hear.

Walk

[Sam]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Indeed. People like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, and Barack Obama are much more of a threat to our nation than Sarah Palin is.

Once upon a time, there was a young charismatic and eloquent young leader who decided his Nation need a change and that he was the one to implement it. The people were receptive and ready for a change. He spoke passionately when denouncing the existing system, and the media loved him. Nobody questioned what he believed in or whom his friends were. He would help the poor and bring free medical care and education to all. He would bring justice and equality. He said: "I am for hope and change and I will bring you both." Nobody bothered to ask about the change, so by the time the executioners’ guns went silent, all personal firearms had been confiscated. When everyone was finally equal, they were equally poor, hungry and miserable. Their free education was worthless. When the change was fully implemented, the country had been reduced to a Third World status. More than a million people fled in small boats and rafts. The charismatic young leader was Fidel Castro; the nation, Cuba.

The citizens of the United States would never fall for a charismatic, eloquent young leader who promises hope and change without asking,“What change, and how much will it cost us?”—would we?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sam

Once upon a time, there was a young charismatic and eloquent young leader who decided his Nation need a change and that he was the one to implement it. The people were receptive and ready for a change. He spoke passionately when denouncing the existing system, and the media loved him. Nobody questioned what he believed in or whom his friends were. He would help the poor and bring free medical care and education to all. He would bring justice and equality. He said: "I am for hope and change and I will bring you both." Nobody bothered to ask about the change, so by the time the executioners’ guns went silent, all personal firearms had been confiscated. When everyone was finally equal, they were equally poor, hungry and miserable. Their free education was worthless. When the change was fully implemented, the country had been reduced to a Third World status. More than a million people fled in small boats and rafts. The charismatic young leader was Fidel Castro; the nation, Cuba.

The citizens of the United States would never fall for a charismatic, eloquent young leader who promises hope and change without asking,“What change, and how much will it cost us?”—would we?

If only Fidel had made the baseball team, huh?



Your post reminded me of a quote credited to Hitler: "What luck for leaders that men do not think."

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Do you care that neither Jesus nor the Apostles mentioned anything about killing other people to take their land for a "physical" kingdom?

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Wow! So you don't care if Jesus approves??

If you don't care whether its biblical or not, how can you then apply biblical significance to it?

Where in the top did you mention Jesus approval? You asked If I cared that Jesus nor the apostles mentioned anything about killing other people to take their land

My response was no I do not care that they did not mention it in the Bible.

Now you are implying that I do not care if Jesus approves of things. Hmmm LONG STRETCH don't you think?

You seem very worried over things in the middle east being brought to a head so that the bride can be taken out of this world. Do you love this world more than you love God? I would hope not.
You see just cause it is not written in the Bible does not mean that it can not be used to bring things about. God can do what ever He wants. He can use who ever He wants. I do not care how it happens I just want to go out of this world and start living eternally with Him. God use what ever means you need to use to get it accomplished.

[trickledown]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You see your avatar, see how the little man is going backwards?

Well that is you.

Do you give the pledge? Do you have any belief in patriotism? Can you answer straight questions?
Is your only response to straight questioning that I must be a child and to reference my avatar?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Where in the top did you mention Jesus approval? You asked If I cared that Jesus nor the apostles mentioned anything about killing other people to take their land

My response was no I do not care that they did not mention it in the Bible.

And you can't understand why I questioned you as I did?

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Now you are implying that I do not care if Jesus approves of things. Hmmm LONG STRETCH don't you think?

Not at all. If you can’t figure why I said this, then you need to reread what you first said...

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Here is my opinion and it has been for some time. Democrats are not going to do what needs to be done for things to work out as needed in the middle east. If she believes this "theology" that you speak of and it scares you then maybe you are not ready for things to start to come to a head. I say if she is the one that is needed and if that way of thinking is needed to get things ready for the bride to be raptured out of here then more power to her and to dominion theology. I look forward to the day when we are taken from this world to be with Him forever.

I have said for years that it will take a Republican with a STRONG church back ground to do what needs to be done for things to fall into place.

Go ahead accuse me of dominion theology. Never heard of it before now and don't really care. I still believe that God can come back for his bride at any time but if I follow the scriptures it sure looks to me like a few things need to take place in the middle east for the anti-Christ to step onto the scene. If it takes an AoG raised trinity pentecostal girl to get it accomplished then let go Sarah. Get it done so we can be taken out of here.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus

My questioning about you not caring came from me saying the Bible never says killing people and taking their land must occur before any future coming of Jesus Christ can happen. All over your post you said that this did not matter to you. That, my friend, is scary!

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

You seem very worried over things in the middle east being brought to a head so that the bride can be taken out of this world.

I know you said you don't care if Jesus or his apostles said anything about this, but you keep tying these two together by claiming it is biblical. Now how can it be biblical, and you not caring whether or not it is in the Bible??

Another thing, if you do claim it is biblical, can you give the book, chapter, and verse where it's found? I can't find anything like you're proposing, can you?

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Do you love this world more than you love God? I would hope not.

Now who's stretching what? So, I'm the bad guy because I want Bible?

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

You see just cause it is not written in the Bible does not mean that it can not be used to bring things about.

There you go. So you adhere to "New Word" doctrine.

Where did Jesus ever say He would do anything beyond what is written in the Bible?

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

God can do what ever He wants.

No He can't. He cannot go against His Word.

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

He can use who ever He wants. I do not care how it happens I just want to go out of this world and start living eternally with Him. God use what ever means you need to use to get it accomplished.

There you go kind readers; jaxfam just demonstrated why the Apostolic Church is falling, brick by brick. Once you go down the road he's advocating, once you remove the importance of following God's Word, once you allow your God to do or be anything "He desires" regardless how opposite the behavior may be to His Word, then you've opened up a huge door that leads to every false teaching and teacher this world offers.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by trickledown

Do you give the pledge? Do you have any belief in patriotism? Can you answer straight questions?
Is your only response to straight questioning that I must be a child and to reference my avatar?

No my reference to your avatar is that you are proceeding in a backward motion.

Yes I pledge to Jesus Christ.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

There you go kind readers; jaxfam just demonstrated why the Apostolic Church is falling, brick by brick. Once you go down the road he's advocating, once you remove the importance of following God's Word, once you allow your God to do or be anything "He desires" regardless how opposite the behavior may be to His Word, then you've opened up a huge door that leads to every false teaching and teacher this world offers.

31 Flavors is that what these guys want? Their own personal Jesus?
Their own beliefs marinated in Kabbalist philosophy and not one Bible scripture to defend their doctrine? I guess Sarah Palin and John McCain are the two witnesses of Rev 11?



In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

[jaxfam6]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
Where in the top did you mention Jesus approval? You asked If I cared that Jesus nor the apostles mentioned anything about killing other people to take their land

My response was no I do not care that they did not mention it in the Bible.

And you can't understand why I questioned you as I did?

What is wrong with me saying I do not care that it is not mentioned? Do have scripture and verse that states that there will be no blood shed, no killing to take back their land?


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
Now you are implying that I do not care if Jesus approves of things. Hmmm LONG STRETCH don't you think?

Not at all. If you can’t figure why I said this, then you need to reread what you first said...

I suppose that in your little boxed in world view of things you would not find it a stretch.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
Here is my opinion and it has been for some time. Democrats are not going to do what needs to be done for things to work out as needed in the middle east. If she believes this "theology" that you speak of and it scares you then maybe you are not ready for things to start to come to a head. I say if she is the one that is needed and if that way of thinking is needed to get things ready for the bride to be raptured out of here then more power to her and to dominion theology. I look forward to the day when we are taken from this world to be with Him forever.

I have said for years that it will take a Republican with a STRONG church back ground to do what needs to be done for things to fall into place.

Go ahead accuse me of dominion theology. Never heard of it before now and don't really care. I still believe that God can come back for his bride at any time but if I follow the scriptures it sure looks to me like a few things need to take place in the middle east for the anti-Christ to step onto the scene. If it takes an AoG raised trinity pentecostal girl to get it accomplished then let go Sarah. Get it done so we can be taken out of here.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus

My questioning about you not caring came from me saying the Bible never says killing people and taking their land must occur before any future coming of Jesus Christ can happen. All over your post you said that this did not matter to you. That, my friend, is scary!

Where in my post does it say that killing is okay? My post was saying that I do not care what means God takes to accomplish what he needs to accomplish to set the stage for the anti-Christ to step on the scene and bring peace to the world. If it takes this 'theology' that you seem have a problem with, which I have never heard of till you brought it up, and still do not care about, to bring it all about so be it. GOD CAN USE WHOMEVER HE WANTS.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
You seem very worried over things in the middle east being brought to a head so that the bride can be taken out of this world.

I know you said you don't care if Jesus or his apostles said anything about this, but you keep tying these two together by claiming it is biblical. Now how can it be biblical, and you not caring whether or not it is in the Bible??

Another thing, if you do claim it is biblical, can you give the book, chapter, and verse where it's found? I can't find anything like you're proposing, can you?


I have tied nothing together. You want to say that the Bible doesn't say they will kill others to take back land but you seem to not be producing scripture that says they will not have to either. It does not take a genius to understand that the middle east is not yet to a boiling point that will allow for the anti-Christ to step on the scene and EVERY NATION accept him. The nations do not seem to be tired enough of the terrorist there that run things with the backing of their religion. You want them to finally be tired of it get them fighting with each other more and more. It may not even take Israel to step up and show force. If they just get the countries really fighting with each other. Who can do that? If israel steps up they will all gang up on Israel but let another country that backs Israel keep doing what it is currently doing and getting into EVERYONES business and get Iran against Iraq and other middle east countries involved and that will be enough. You get them fighting among themselves more and they will start getting tired of it as well as the rest of the world. THEN YOU HAVE A STAGE THAT WILL BE RIPE FOR THE PICKING.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
Do you love this world more than you love God? I would hope not.

Now who's stretching what? So, I'm the bad guy because I want Bible?

Why is my question stretching it? Are you the bad guy? Who accused you of not wanting the Bible? You can have the Bible and there can still be a need for killing over there. You do not have scripture to say there will not be.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
You see just cause it is not written in the Bible does not mean that it can not be used to bring things about.

There you go. So you adhere to "New Word" doctrine.

Where did Jesus ever say He would do anything beyond what is written in the Bible?

Why are you afraid of Him doing something that is not written in the word? Just because He did not say that Israel will not have to kill to take back land does not mean that it will not have to happen either. Did God say that America would fight the Revolutionary war or the Civil war or any other war for that matter? The Bible does say that there would be wars and rumors of wars. That is all it takes, any nation, any people.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
God can do what ever He wants.

No He can't. He cannot go against His Word.

Yes my friend He can. He can do whatever He wants. He is GOD after all.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
He can use who ever He wants. I do not care how it happens I just want to go out of this world and start living eternally with Him. God use what ever means you need to use to get it accomplished.

There you go kind readers; jaxfam just demonstrated why the Apostolic Church is falling, brick by brick. Once you go down the road he's advocating, once you remove the importance of following God's Word, once you allow your God to do or be anything "He desires" regardless how opposite the behavior may be to His Word, then you've opened up a huge door that leads to every false teaching and teacher this world offers.


There you go folks I am the main cause of the fall of the Apostolic church. Me and me alone. I have encouraged you all to stop following the Bible. (please if anyone can find where I did that show me)

God help those that are afraid to think outside the BOX.


Stop their funeral and raise them up. Place life back into them. Place some wisdom and into their boxed up minds and help them get out of their own little world.

[ReformedDave]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxfam6
God can do what ever He wants.

No He can't. He cannot go against His Word.

Yes my friend He can. He can do whatever He wants. He is GOD after all.

Actually, you both are incorrect. To say He cannot go against His word is nonsensical since He is all knowing and would never say anything that is against His plan.

Also, to suggest that He could go against His own decreed word would make Him out a liar and is against His character. His word is forever fixed. If He knows something will come to pass it will.