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06-26-2008, 11:19 AM
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Todd Bentley talks about the One God
Lastnight I was watching the FL revival thing and Todd went into how Jesus was God. He went through this whole drawn out thing about the one God, Jesus! Unfortunately I can not post the video from work. Even if I could I have no clue how to do it. My thought or question to you all ripping him apart, does this give him credibility now in your eyes?
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06-26-2008, 11:20 AM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Lastnight I was watching the FL revival thing and Todd went into how Jesus was God. He went through this whole drawn out thing about the one God, Jesus! Unfortunately I can not post the video from work. Even if I could I have no clue how to do it. My thought or question to you all ripping him apart, does this give him credibility now in your eyes?
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06-26-2008, 11:21 AM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Lastnight I was watching the FL revival thing and Todd went into how Jesus was God. He went through this whole drawn out thing about the one God, Jesus! Unfortunately I can not post the video from work. Even if I could I have no clue how to do it. My thought or question to you all ripping him apart, does this give him credibility now in your eyes?
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I don't know who he is, JT. As for posting the video, just copy and paste the link.
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06-26-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
Many trinitarians and oneness both believe the following:
There is one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
God is an invisible Spirit who fills all time and space. Jesus is that invisible God localized and made visible.
Jesus is YHWH, the one God of the Old Testament, who came in flesh as a human to redeem humankind.
Jesus lives in our hearts as the Holy Spirit.
The word "one" can mean a single unit or it can mean "united" depending on its context.
Some trinitarians and some oneness believe that the only way we will see God in Heaven is in the person of Jesus.
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06-26-2008, 12:17 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Many trinitarians and oneness both believe the following:
There is one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
God is an invisible Spirit who fills all time and space. Jesus is that invisible God localized and made visible.
Jesus is YHWH, the one God of the Old Testament, who came in flesh as a human to redeem humankind.
Jesus lives in our hearts as the Holy Spirit.
The word "one" can mean a single unit or it can mean "united" depending on its context.
Some trinitarians and some oneness believe that the only way we will see God in Heaven is in the person of Jesus.
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Very good Sam.
I would go so far as to say pretty much ALL Oneness and Trinitarian Pentecostals believe that!
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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06-26-2008, 12:26 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
Guys I agree. St. Mark you would consider me 'one of us.' I can not get on Youtube or anything here at work. Even if I could the filter here would not let me view the video so I would not even know if I was posting the correct one. But if any of us on here closed our eyes and listened to what he was saying everyone would say, 'he sounds like one of us.' I promise you!
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06-26-2008, 12:26 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Originally Posted by Sam
Many trinitarians and oneness both believe the following:
There is one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
God is an invisible Spirit who fills all time and space. Jesus is that invisible God localized and made visible.
Jesus is YHWH, the one God of the Old Testament, who came in flesh as a human to redeem humankind.
Jesus lives in our hearts as the Holy Spirit.
The word "one" can mean a single unit or it can mean "united" depending on its context.
Some trinitarians and some oneness believe that the only way we will see God in Heaven is in the person of Jesus.
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I like how you always try to inspire unity.
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06-26-2008, 02:44 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Guys I agree. St. Mark you would consider me 'one of us.' I can not get on Youtube or anything here at work. Even if I could the filter here would not let me view the video so I would not even know if I was posting the correct one. But if any of us on here closed our eyes and listened to what he was saying everyone would say, 'he sounds like one of us.' I promise you!
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"Sounds like" one of us and being "one of us" are two different things. He is not one of us. He is at best deluded. But based on his demonic symbols and statements regarding his Emma (no female angels in the Bible) he is deeply into religious witchcraft.
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06-26-2008, 02:54 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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"Sounds like" one of us and being "one of us" are two different things. He is not one of us. He is at best deluded. But based on his demonic symbols and statements regarding his Emma (no female angels in the Bible) he is deeply into religious witchcraft.
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Ahhhh, Ummmmm ok. Obviously he is not one of the OP's. He would never be due to his look. A lot has been written about him and taken out of context. Not sure if you feel this way, but.....It boggles my mind how EVERYTIME God moves out side the OP ranks that the OP's point fingers at it and try to discount what is happening. I agree with MOW changed lives is what is important. Heck if something like this happened in the OP church other churches would stand back and point fingers trying to find the fault in it.
For years the OP church has been claiming revival is coming and saying things like, 'It's coming, it's coming, it's coming' and the crowds go wild. But the moment things like this goes on we put the brakes on and speak out against it. I don't agree with everything going on there, but it seems that God is changing people, healing, raising up people and sidline sitters yell out against it. I believe as the body of Christ we are missing what He is doing. Think about it. In that FL revival people who don't look like us are going nuts and acting wacky for Jesus, but let me ask you, what was pentecost? It was people that didn't look that the religious of that day going nuts and going wacky for Jesus. To beat it all pentecost has become our sugar stick. God does NOT always move the same way and same places He always has.
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06-26-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Todd Bentley talks about the One God
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Ahhhh, Ummmmm ok. Obviously he is not one of the OP's. He would never be due to his look. A lot has been written about him and taken out of context. Not sure if you feel this way, but.....It boggles my mind how EVERYTIME God moves out side the OP ranks that the OP's point fingers at it and try to discount what is happening. I agree with MOW changed lives is what is important. Heck if something like this happened in the OP church other churches would stand back and point fingers trying to find the fault in it.
For years the OP church has been claiming revival is coming and saying things like, 'It's coming, it's coming, it's coming' and the crowds go wild. But the moment things like this goes on we put the brakes on and speak out against it. I don't agree with everything going on there, but it seems that God is changing people, healing, raising up people and sidline sitters yell out against it. I believe as the body of Christ we are missing what He is doing. Think about it. In that FL revival people who don't look like us are going nuts and acting wacky for Jesus, but let me ask you, what was pentecost? It was people that didn't look that the religious of that day going nuts and going wacky for Jesus. To beat it all pentecost has become our sugar stick. God does NOT always move the same way and same places He always has.
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JT, If going nuts and "wacky" for Jesus is criteria for "revival" then great. Bentely has the market cornered on that. I actually saw people holding Winnie the phooh bears in his crowd.
But, I think you have to judge it by a little more strict critera. Not even by miracles or healings.
1. What is being preached? Does Bentely preach the gospel of repentance? Even confess-with-your-mouth and believe-in-your-heart Baptist salvation.
2. Does he preach to turn from sin and righteous living?
3. Is he lifting up and bringing glory to Christ.
But I do agree with you on one point. When God does move in a real revival I am certain it will be outside denom walls. The move of God has always been outside from the day of Pentecost on. I just don't think this has anything to do with God.
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