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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It came up on my radar while studying PTSD and anxiety disorders and looking into natural remedies far anxiety and other disorders. Being a vet and having PTSD caused many of the details of this issue to resonate with me. I dug deeper into the history behind cannabis and the government's efforts to crush at the behest of the drug companies that want to keep pumping us full of synthetic medications and I found it to be rather sinister and underhanded. The side effects of cannabis are nothing compared to the dozens of pills and medications most are prescribed for various conditions. And, it truly addresses symptoms. Most states have lists of over 100 conditions cannabis has been proven to treat. And you can grow it yourself. No wonder they want it illegal.

Then add to this that the synthetic cannabis provided by the government has killed a number of vets. Now it feels personal. Many veteran's groups and veteran care advocates are getting geared up for a fight because of Jeff Sessions and his hardline approach to cannabis. So, being a vet and having PTSD makes this an issue I'm concerned with.

Here's a video that expresses a little about our plight.

Smoking dubes is going to help with paranoia?

Aquila, when you took a few days off from the forum for self reflection, was marijuana a part of that time of reflection?

You see, this was my main argument with you concerning this subject. It is all about mind altering drugs to be used as treatment.EMDR was supposed to be an alternative to mind altering drugs. But, you have been rattling the cage with the advocacy of drug use in an Apostolic forum. In short this is your M.O. this is primarily why you are here. You are a shapeshifter. Wolves when trailing a herd mostly go after the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying. Chris, you got issues, and a forum is the gathering place for herds. You are looking to lead astray, the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Smoking dubes is going to help with paranoia?

There are oils that can be taken, not all have psychoactive properties.

On a side note, cannabis only unlocks aspects of the subconscious. If someone is "paranoid" as a side effect, it is primarily because they have the deep sense that they have something to hide. Those who do not, do not have that side effect. Understanding the substance and how it effects one personally is of primary importance and can actually help the individual release from that side effect, or delve deeper into their mind, contemplatively to discover what it is beneath the surface that they are terrified will be discovered. But, as with any medication, if one experiences undesirable side effects, they should look for a different medication.

Aquila, when you took a few days off from the forum for self reflection, was marijuana a part of that time of reflection?

No.

You see, this was my main argument with you concerning this subject. It is all about mind altering drugs to be used as treatment. EMDR was supposed to be an alternative to mind altering drugs.

My issue was with the synthetic psychotropic medication that has numerous side effects ranging from erectile disfunction, to hearing voices, to even suicidal thoughts. Drugs that so alters the brain's biochemistry that it can throw a person into a psychotic tail spin if they cease taking medication. Cannabis isn't like that, and it primarily effects the endocannabinoid system of the brain, bringing the brain into a more natural biochemical balance. And it isn't synthetic, it's all natural, provided by nature and nature's God, has no serious side effects, it's less addictive than coffee, and if one decides to quit and not take any more, it doesn't through one into a psychotic episode. It's an herbal remedy, a medication in many states in the United States and increasingly throughout the Westernized world.

Legalization puts the power in the hands of individuals to treat their PTSD and many other conditions with an all natural substance they could grow themselves, liberating them from dealing with the drug companies and having to take their synthetic poisons.

There's nothing more "mind altering" about cannabis than there is in powerful prescription strength cough medicine.

Prayer and natural remedies. All provided by God as a means to receive healing. There's nothing immoral about that.

But, you have been rattling the cage with the advocacy of drug use in an Apostolic forum. In short this is your M.O. this is primarily why you are here. You are a shapeshifter. Wolves when trailing a herd mostly go after the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying. Chris, you got issues, and a forum is the gathering place for herds. You are looking to lead astray, the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying.

That is merely your opinion. I disagree. I'm just discussing issues on a forum and sharing my understanding. If it angers a few who are stuck in yesterday's paradigms, I can do nothing about that. But if current research, understanding, experience, and interpretation can open just one person's eyes to the greater realty available to them that extends beyond what starchy old and outdated traditions can offer... and it changes their life for the better... is it not a good thing?

I get the feeling that you don't like change. Nor do you like the idea that you've bought into notions that were championed by previous generations that are now being proven wrong. Trickledown economics doesn't work, cannabis isn't a dangerous addictive substance, there are better solutions to healthcare than the market. I think these notions trouble you. They anger you to the point of personal insult. If I were Galileo, I can seriously picture you hurling insults and shattering my telescope. lol

But I think highly of you anyway. Because I feel that your anger is evidence that you can sense the internal dissonance my questions reveal. As long as no one challenges your contrived model of reality... you feel fine. Let someone shake up the fruit basket and try to get you to think outside of the faulty paradigms of yesterday, and you're all spittin' mad and calling people wolves and such.

Instead of attacking me... logically grapple with the argument I present. I fear that you can't, and so you turn to attack me to ease your own uneasiness about the worldview you've assumed is unchanging. Let's focus on the issues. Not sling mud at one another.

Besides, do born again Christians have to always agree? If so, I'll give you time to come around. lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There are oils that can be taken, not all have psychoactive properties.

Typical Chris, you now swing from legalized weed to CBD? From marijuana smoking to CBD gummy bears? In the world of the blind you are the one eyed king. This isn't attacking, this is calling a spade a spade. You dance in between the raindrops with the response that you are being attacked. No, calling a foul ball, doesn't make the umpire an attacker.

Originally Posted by Aquila

On a side note, cannabis only unlocks aspects of the subconscious.

Now ganja has an LSD reaction? When I raced motocross there was a guy who would spoke a dube before he hit the track. after the race he would come over to our pit, and tell us how fast he was going. My dad would walk over to him and tell him that he was getting lapped, and that he needed to stop doing drugs. That reality is the only cure for imaginary experiences.
My father then kicked him out of the pit. It doesn't unlock anything Mr Leary. It just slows down your brain, it makes your reaction times SLOWER. Why do you think we called it DOPE. You are a shapeshifter.

Originally Posted by Aquila

If someone is "paranoid" as a side effect, it is primarily because they have the deep sense that they have something to hide.

Chris, paranoia is the side effect of the THC. It is a SIDE EFFECT of the drug. What you posted above is nothing more then made up conjecture. Researchers have found that THC effects the amygdala, which causes a pendulum swing in EMOTIONS paranoia being one. The brain is slowed by the narcotic effects of the THC. Sorry, Chris, drugs were for religious rituals of pagans. Sadly, people want to play with things which which were only used by the Shamans and Gurus. You want to play with socieries? Then you will receive the penalty described in the Bible.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Those who do not, do not have that side effect.

With drugs there are always side effects, with the Holy Ghost there are NO side effects. The term "freaked out" was when someone would manipulate your trip while you were toking away with the group. They would psych you out, just like when someone is sober. Yet, under the influence of the narcotic your brain response is slower, therefore it is easier to get you to that point.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Understanding the substance and how it effects one personally is of primary importance and can actually help the individual release from that side effect, or delve deeper into their mind, contemplatively to discover what it is beneath the surface that they are terrified will be discovered. But, as with any medication, if one experiences undesirable side effects, they should look for a different medication.

Sounds like you are talking about LSD. Refer works way differently. While both modify your response to the world around you. Both are incredibly bad, SPIRITUALLY. Yet, you are clueless to that aspect of Christianity.

Originally Posted by Aquila

No.

No? How can you be its advocate to treat a condition you say you have but not use it yourself?

Originally Posted by Aquila

My issue was with the synthetic psychotropic medication that has numerous side effects ranging from erectile disfunction, to hearing voices, to even suicidal thoughts.

Narcotic plant life have the same effects even before sythnization. Magic mushrooms, Hiawassa, peyote buttons, refer, poppy, my lands even fermented fruits.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Drugs that so alters the brain's biochemistry that it can throw a person into a psychotic tail spin if they cease taking medication. Cannabis isn't like that, and it primarily effects the endocannabinoid system of the brain, bringing the brain into a more natural biochemical balance.

How old is wine drinking? How old is drug use? Chris, you are a messenger of a messed up message. These things you are repeating are not from your own research, but from liberal reports which are written to gain legalization of weed. You obviously don't care about anyone's young people. Nor do you truly understand the effects of the New Drug Movement on our secular young people.

Originally Posted by Aquila

And it isn't synthetic, it's all natural, provided by nature and nature's God, has no serious side effects, it's less addictive than coffee, and if one decides to quit and not take any more, it doesn't through one into a psychotic episode. It's an herbal remedy, a medication in many states in the United States and increasingly throughout the Westernized world.

Magic mushrooms, hiawassa, peyote, wormwood Artemisia absinthium, salvia, Jimson Weed, amanita mushrooms, and Ipomoea tricolor blue flowers. all natural, all used in rituals. All were to be administered by tribal witch doctor, shaman, high priest, or guru. You are a wolf among the sheep, disguised to catch the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Legalization puts the power in the hands of individuals to treat their PTSD and many other conditions with an all natural substance they could grow themselves, liberating them from dealing with the drug companies and having to take their synthetic poisons.

That isn't what ancient civilizations did with those substances. On the contrary, the had holy men who protected the secrets of these ingredients. They plants were used in ceremonies, not flippantly given over to extravagant uncaring know it alls like yourself. These plants were gathered by priests and priestesses, who would chant, pray or sing to the demons (which they called gods) as they gathered the plant life. What we do as Pentecostals through prayer and devotion to get to higher levels in praise as we speak in other tongues. These witches and sorcerers bypass all of that with their hullegenic plant life. Oh they also believed it came from god, just with a little g. Therefore, anyone reading the above quote would quickly realize where it comes from, those who practice witchcraft. They say the same as you, but not with the same intent. Not calling you a witch, but you are so foolish in self, and want to lead people away from truth, that you don't even realize you are being used.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There's nothing more "mind altering" about cannabis than there is in powerful prescription strength cough medicine.

Chris, powerful cough medicine had opiates. Chris, you need to really do some soul searching. Because it looks like you lost your's somewhere.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Prayer and natural remedies. All provided by God as a means to receive healing. There's nothing immoral about that.

The ancients understood the dangers of the gurus, sadhus, shamans, priestesses who combined the spiritual with the chemical of the human brain. Chris what you are promoting John M. Allegro, Timothy Leary, and Ram Dass

Like per usual the Bible disagrees with you Revelation 22:15

Revelation 9:21

Revelation 18:23

Revelation 21:8

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

That is merely your opinion.

No, I always give good reasons back with what those reasons are based on. This isn't personal, this is spiritual. You are peddling a false Christ who advocates the use of hallucinogenic plants and prayer. That is no where in the New Testament teaching of the Apostles.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I disagree.

Of course, and why wouldn't you? If you agreed then you would be obviously wrong. We all know that that can't be the case. Because then you would have to turn from this ideology you are trying to sell here. Chris, in your great need to be something you are not you never fail to show who you are. Jesus and His apostles didn't advocate the use of hallucinogens with prayer.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm just discussing issues on a forum and sharing my understanding.

Your understanding that you believe that drug use under Jesus' name is a good thing for all of us to deal with our issues? Really?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If it angers a few who are stuck in yesterday's paradigms, I can do nothing about that.

Yesterday's paradigms? You mean the first century A.D.? I can't stop saying it, Jesus and His apostles didn't advocate the use of psychotropic plantlife to touch God. John M. Allegro was wrong, and you are wrong, and Timothy Leary was wrong. No anger, only anger around here is displayed by the one with the bad argument, that my boy would be you.

Originally Posted by Aquila

But if current research, understanding, experience, and interpretation can open just one person's eyes to the greater realty available to them that extends beyond what starchy old and outdated traditions can offer... and it changes their life for the better... is it not a good thing?

Acts 2:38 still works well, the power of Holy Ghost led prayer still saves the soul. Sorry, if all that never worked for you, I am sincerely sorry, but the drug scene never worked for me. So, you just bringing around the same old gal, just wearing a different dress. No matter how much make up you put on that girl she is still old and not able to give peace. Sorry Chris, I am honestly sorry for you.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I get the feeling that you don't like change.

That's your biggest problem. You work through what you feel, instead of what the Bible instructs us to do. It isn't about feelings, it is about allow Jesus Christ to do the work in us.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Nor do you like the idea that you've bought into notions that were championed by previous generations that are now being proven wrong.

The Holy Ghost still works, repentance led by Jesus Christ still changes everything. Growing to a place in Christ where He wants us to be is still the plan of the day. You my boy, have been tempted, and sadly fooled by a world who sin't your friend.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Trickledown economics doesn't work, cannabis isn't a dangerous addictive substance, there are better solutions to healthcare than the market. I think these notions trouble you. They anger you to the point of personal insult. If I were Galileo, I can seriously picture you hurling insults and shattering my telescope. lol

Galileo was a coward, who changed his position by fear of death. Jesus didn't, He went to the execution, because through death He would bring life to all. Trickle down economics? Bro, I am the city and country called CHRIST. aS Ephesians were from Ephesus, I am in Christ and therefore call my self a Christian. health care? I knew saints of God who lived happy long lives never went to a doctor (I'm not against doctors) they lived without any insurance. Should I have demanded them to get something they never used? They are gone, to meet their maker, they lived in a world outside of your box.

Originally Posted by Aquila

But I think highly of you anyway. Because I feel that your anger is evidence that you can sense the internal dissonance my questions reveal. As long as no one challenges your contrived model of reality... you feel fine. Let someone shake up the fruit basket and try to get you to think outside of the faulty paradigms of yesterday, and you're all spittin' mad and calling people wolves and such.

Chris, you are a wolf, because you lay among the sheep waiting to devour the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying. We don't matter to do you, in the immortal words of Sherri's husband we are imaginary friends. Your interactions with us is like pieces on a board game. You play for awhile, and then when you are through you walk away. The real focus is that you may be able to pull someone away from the true Physician, the supernatural healer, who has the spiritual balm which heals forever.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Instead of attacking me... logically grapple with the argument I present. I fear that you can't, and so you turn to attack me to ease your own uneasiness about the worldview you've assumed is unchanging. Let's focus on the issues. Not sling mud at one another.

You want to wrap yourself in political correctness. Calling attacks when that isn't the case. Arguments are met, yet you are the one who wants to glide around them.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Besides, do born again Christians have to always agree? If so, I'll give you time to come around. lol

Chris, this is typical of you. You want everyone to gaze at the bug, as if we can't read the other poster's responses to you. Chris, you are offering us a Jesus who through the help of narcotics will lead us to a brighter day. Sorry, anyone needs to come around would be you.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Typical Chris, you now swing from legalized weed to CBD? From marijuana smoking to CBD gummy bears? In the world of the blind you are the one eyed king. This isn't attacking, this is calling a spade a spade. You dance in between the raindrops with the response that you are being attacked. No, calling a foul ball, doesn't make the umpire an attacker.



Now ganja has an LSD reaction? When I raced motocross there was a guy who would spoke a dube before he hit the track. after the race he would come over to our pit, and tell us how fast he was going. My dad would walk over to him and tell him that he was getting lapped, and that he needed to stop doing drugs. That reality is the only cure for imaginary experiences.
My father then kicked him out of the pit. It doesn't unlock anything Mr Leary. It just slows down your brain, it makes your reaction times SLOWER. Why do you think we called it DOPE. You are a shapeshifter.



Chris, paranoia is the side effect of the THC. It is a SIDE EFFECT of the drug. What you posted above is nothing more then made up conjecture. Researchers have found that THC effects the amygdala, which causes a pendulum swing in EMOTIONS paranoia being one. The brain is slowed by the narcotic effects of the THC. Sorry, Chris, drugs were for religious rituals of pagans. Sadly, people want to play with things which which were only used by the Shamans and Gurus. You want to play with socieries? Then you will receive the penalty described in the Bible.





With drugs there are always side effects, with the Holy Ghost there are NO side effects. The term "freaked out" was when someone would manipulate your trip while you were toking away with the group. They would psych you out, just like when someone is sober. Yet, under the influence of the narcotic your brain response is slower, therefore it is easier to get you to that point.



Sounds like you are talking about LSD. Refer works way differently. While both modify your response to the world around you. Both are incredibly bad, SPIRITUALLY. Yet, you are clueless to that aspect of Christianity.




No? How can you be its advocate to treat a condition you say you have but not use it yourself?




Narcotic plant life have the same effects even before sythnization. Magic mushrooms, Hiawassa, peyote buttons, refer, poppy, my lands even fermented fruits.



How old is wine drinking? How old is drug use? Chris, you are a messenger of a messed up message. These things you are repeating are not from your own research, but from liberal reports which are written to gain legalization of weed. You obviously don't care about anyone's young people. Nor do you truly understand the effects of the New Drug Movement on our secular young people.



Magic mushrooms, hiawassa, peyote, wormwood Artemisia absinthium, salvia, Jimson Weed, amanita mushrooms, and Ipomoea tricolor blue flowers. all natural, all used in rituals. All were to be administered by tribal witch doctor, shaman, high priest, or guru. You are a wolf among the sheep, disguised to catch the young, the weak, the sick, the injured, and the dying.



That isn't what ancient civilizations did with those substances. On the contrary, the had holy men who protected the secrets of these ingredients. They plants were used in ceremonies, not flippantly given over to extravagant uncaring know it alls like yourself. These plants were gathered by priests and priestesses, who would chant, pray or sing to the demons (which they called gods) as they gathered the plant life. What we do as Pentecostals through prayer and devotion to get to higher levels in praise as we speak in other tongues. These witches and sorcerers bypass all of that with their hullegenic plant life. Oh they also believed it came from god, just with a little g. Therefore, anyone reading the above quote would quickly realize where it comes from, those who practice witchcraft. They say the same as you, but not with the same intent. Not calling you a witch, but you are so foolish in self, and want to lead people away from truth, that you don't even realize you are being used.

No one is talking about using any medication as a part of a ritual.

Many medications created by pharmaceutical companies have natural elements in them. In fact, before cannabis was made illegal, it was commonly used in cough syrups and other medications. If the use of a natural substance as medication is witchcraft, then the entire pharmaceutical industry is witchcraft, any Christian so much as taking an aspirin would be guilty of witchcraft, and so the entire pharmaceutical industry would have to be opposed vehemently by Christians.

God's Word lays no prohibition regarding consuming plants in any form.

Although drunkenness is condemned, wine was never outright prohibited in Scripture. In fact, Paul advises Timothy to drink a little wine for his oft infirmities (most likely digestive problems). Wine was also used to cleanse wounds, and given to the dying to ease their pain.

Scholars have considered that cannabis may have been an ingredient in the OT holy anointing oil and the holy incense in the tent of meeting.

The same principles that govern the use of wine can be applied to any medication or intoxicant.

Please try to remember, I'm not talking about recreational use. I'm talking about using it medically.

Lastly, have you ever partaken in it? I'm just curious. Because you sound rather inexperienced.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No one is talking about using any medication as a part of a ritual.

No, they aren't. Yet, I posted that those who took these substances did it through the guide of the priestess or holy man. You in your limited understanding, thinking yourself wise you become the fool. Want to take, and others to take substances that the ancients never meant for you to use outside of their treatments within their rituals. You are opening yourself up to things you clearly don't understand. You are a know it all, and because you are so foolish in your pridefulness you would indulge in something you would be unable to control. When was the last time you smoked weed? How much weed did you smoke? Was it rolled or in a water pipe bong?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Many medications created by pharmaceutical companies have natural elements in them. In fact, before cannabis was made illegal, it was commonly used in cough syrups and other medications.

Cocaine was in soda. What's your point? Should children drink a beverage with cocaine in it? Should school children smoke dubes before class to be more relaxed? Brave New World? Have you read it? Better question would be, do you understand it?

Originally Posted by Aquila

If the use of a natural substance as medication is witchcraft, then the entire pharmaceutical industry is witchcraft, any Christian so much as taking an aspirin would be guilty of witchcraft, and so the entire pharmaceutical industry would have to be opposed vehemently by Christians.

You are being disingenuous, but that isn't odd for you. You are a professional shapeshifter, it is like muscle memory for you. It is a reflex. Natural medications like ginseng, white willow bark from which aspirin is made isn't the same as the psychotropic plants used in religious rites. You go around telling people aspirin is the same as opium they would put you on ignore. Losing all credibility to continue the discussion.

Originally Posted by Aquila

God's Word lays no prohibition regarding consuming plants in any form.

The sorcery which we are directed to in the Bible isn't penicillin, or your aspirin. They were hallucinogens used in religious rituals. You already posted how we should use psychotropics and prayer, therefore you are a few thousand years too late. The ancient religions already had the idea, you are just a Johnny come lately look for the impressionable among us to swoon.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Although drunkenness is condemned, wine was never outright prohibited in Scripture. In fact, Paul advises Timothy to drink a little wine for his oft infirmities (most likely digestive problems). Wine was also used to cleanse wounds, and given to the dying to ease their pain.

Wine and all foods are prohibited in gluttony. Anyone who has had stomach issues don't drink a huge glass of anything fermented, hence a little wine. Chris, you really don't have an honest bone in your body? Wine isn't the same as THC. You can drink a little wine, but one dube can take you out.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Scholars have considered that cannabis may have been an ingredient in the OT holy anointing oil and the holy incense in the tent of meeting.

Scholars who are these scholars? Scholars also say that Jesus wasn't God. Scholars also say that Jesus may have a tomb where his bones are found. Need I say more? We all can find a scholar who will and can be used to prop up our stories.

Originally Posted by Aquila

The same principles that govern the use of wine can be applied to any medication or intoxicant.

Relly? When was the last time you smoked a joint?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Please try to remember, I'm not talking about recreational use. I'm talking about using it medically.

Who pays you? Are you serious? Are you opening a medical marijuana store in Ohio? Chris, this is being legalized because of what was being done in the 1970s? Where were you in 1979? Because I knew of individuals who already had this planned out. It is for our government to make money. Opium was legal dude, it didn't help the masses, it killed us. Wake up.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Lastly, have you ever partaken in it? I'm just curious. Because you sound rather inexperienced.

Partaken in what? Curious about what Chris? Spell it out, I'm waiting for this one. Boy you sure don't seem to remember what you post to people on this forum. Good God from Zion.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Your understanding that you believe that drug use under Jesus' name is a good thing for all of us to deal with our issues? Really?

This weekend my friend Aaron and I went to the VA cemetery to visit our dad's graves. We're both military and not only do we both suffer from a degree of PTSD, but we know many who do. We also know men who have ended their lives because they couldn't get control of their PTSD symptoms.

Yes, I truly pray that God miraculously heal us all. However, if a medication will help someone, or keep a vet alive, along enough to receive a miraculous healing, I have no issues with it. Vets will tell you that it isn't uncommon to have to take a dozen pills to treat PTSD symptoms. Those with severe PTSD who are taking cannabis in states where it is legal are down to one or two without the mind numbing side effects of the pills typically prescribed.

I don't believe it is a sin to take any form of medication.