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09-29-2014, 11:22 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
Cruz and Carson? Should be interesting.
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09-29-2014, 03:55 PM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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Cruz and Carson? Should be interesting.
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Now, that would be a great ticket. I believe that Carson is very intelligent and would be a great VP.
My view of Ted Cruz is that he is our Benjamin Netanyahu.
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09-29-2014, 04:04 PM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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Cruz will announce this week and get a jump on the competition.
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He just gave $250,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee. That was smart of him. To show he wants the majority and to show that he is a team player, when they accuse him of not being one.
The NRSC uses some of that money to attack people like Ted Cruz. And we know he will be smart enough to point that out in order to take the party back. I hope they mess with him.
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10-02-2014, 06:46 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
If GOP runs Mitt again I'm going independent!
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10-02-2014, 09:29 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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If GOP runs Mitt again I'm going independent!
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10-02-2014, 09:46 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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Walks, He wasn't at the meeting to ignore Christians being persecuted in the Middle East. That is what the meeting was about.
"I didn't want to cede the discussion to the extremes," Cruz said. "If we simply stay away and allow those who are defending radical Islamic terrorist groups to dominate the conversation, I don't think that's the right thing to do."
He stood up to those 20% in the audience who support Hezbollah. The President of IDC acknowledged they were there and their voices were louder.
He is not going to side with people who only talk about Christians being persecuted when they are blatantly anti-semitic.
You can't blame the WHOLE country of Israel on what some selected videos show anymore than you can do that with scattered bigotry in America.
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More and more evidence is coming to light that shows Israel as a racist, bigoted society on a path of ethnic and religious cleansing. Being critical of their policies used to be dismissed and branded "anti-Semitism". Can you brand this group "anti-Semitic"? These are Jewish holocaust survivors and their descendants and this is what they have to say on Israeli policy towards their neighbors:
http://ijsn.net/gaza/survivors-and-descendants-letter/
http://ijsn.net/press-release-jewish...stice-in-gaza/
As Jewish survivors and descendants of survivors and victims of the Nazi genocide we unequivocally condemn the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza and the ongoing occupation and colonization of historic Palestine. We further condemn the United States for providing Israel with the funding to carry out the attack, and Western states more generally for using their diplomatic muscle to protect Israel from condemnation. Genocide begins with the silence of the world.
We are alarmed by the extreme, racist dehumanization of Palestinians in Israeli society, which has reached a fever-pitch. In Israel, politicians and pundits in The Times of Israel and The Jerusalem Post have called openly for genocide of Palestinians and right-wing Israelis are adopting Neo-Nazi insignia.
Furthermore, we are disgusted and outraged by Elie Wiesel’s abuse of our history in these pages to justify the unjustifiable: Israel’s wholesale effort to destroy Gaza and the murder of more than 2,000 Palestinians, including many hundreds of children. Nothing can justify bombing UN shelters, homes, hospitals and universities. Nothing can justify depriving people of electricity and water.
We must raise our collective voices and use our collective power to bring about an end to all forms of racism, including the ongoing genocide of Palestinian people. We call for an immediate end to the siege against and blockade of Gaza. We call for the full economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. “Never again” must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!
Some specific comments and who they were from:
Hajo Meyer, a survivor of Auschwitz and the initial signatory to the letter expressed outrage at the racism coming out of Israel. “The dehumanization of Jews is what made possible the Nazi genocide. In the same way, we are witnessing the escalating dehumanization of Palestinians in Israeli society,”
Raphael Cohen, grandson of survivors who lives in the United States, called on people to take action to demand justice for Palestinians. “It is my own government paying for this violence. When governments won’t do what’s right, individuals and communities must speak out. That’s why I support the Palestinian call for boycott, divestment, and sanctions.”
You and Cruz can side with Israel. I believe I'll side with these folks. Cruz deserved to be boo'd.
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10-02-2014, 09:58 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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You and Cruz can side with Israel. I believe I'll side with these folks. Cruz deserved to be boo'd.
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Yes, we take note that you sided with the people booing - Hezbollah.
"Religious bigotry is a cancer with many manifestations. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and their state sponsors like Syria and Iran, are all engaged in a vicious genocidal campaign to destroy religious minorities in the Middle East," Cruz spoke out.
"Sometimes we are told not to lump these groups together, that we have to understand their so-called nuances and differences," he continued. "But we shouldn't try to parse different manifestations of evil that are on murderous rampage through the region. Hate is hate and murder is murder."
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10-02-2014, 11:32 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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Yes, we take note that you sided with the people booing - Hezbollah.
"Religious bigotry is a cancer with many manifestations. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and their state sponsors like Syria and Iran, are all engaged in a vicious genocidal campaign to destroy religious minorities in the Middle East," Cruz spoke out.
"Sometimes we are told not to lump these groups together, that we have to understand their so-called nuances and differences," he continued. "But we shouldn't try to parse different manifestations of evil that are on murderous rampage through the region. Hate is hate and murder is murder."
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Your post would make a lot more sense if my post was about Hezbollah. It wasn't. It was about survivors of the Holocaust who are calling for a blockade on Israel until their policies towards their neighbors change.
Murder sure is murder. Saw this kid's father on Al-Jazeera. He opened his son's bookbag, held up the book, opened it, and showed where the bullet stopped.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...hot-dead-video
Passed right through that kid, into his bookbag, and stopped in his schoolbooks. Didn't see that kid doing anything on camera but walking down the street.
Israeli government investigated this. Said it was a rubber bullet.
You side with Cruz and these murderers if you want to. You forget that Hezbollah started in open-air camps that house 1,000,000 displaced people behind walls of rock and barbed wire.
Those used to be called concentration camps.
Video released via the human rights organisation Defence for Children International (DCI) shows two Palestinian teenagers being killed during a protest in Beitunia. DCI has accused Israeli troops of unlawful killing as it claims the video shows neither boy posed an immediate danger.
I don't side with people who round up other people in concentration camps and I don't side with politicians who side with them either. You side with Cruz and the concentration camp running murderers he supports, I'll stick with folks like DCI. Now you both deserve to be boo'd.
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10-02-2014, 11:53 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
WiA - What does your name mean? Are you Muslim?
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10-02-2014, 11:56 AM
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Re: It's Time To Draft Ted Cruz for President
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Your post would make a lot more sense if my post was about Hezbollah. It wasn't. It was about survivors of the Holocaust who are calling for a blockade on Israel until their policies towards their neighbors change.
Murder sure is murder. Saw this kid's father on Al-Jazeera. He opened his son's bookbag, held up the book, opened it, and showed where the bullet stopped.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...hot-dead-video
Passed right through that kid, into his bookbag, and stopped in his schoolbooks. Didn't see that kid doing anything on camera but walking down the street.
Israeli government investigated this. Said it was a rubber bullet.
You side with Cruz and these murderers if you want to. You forget that Hezbollah started in open-air camps that house 1,000,000 displaced people behind walls of rock and barbed wire.
Those used to be called concentration camps.
Video released via the human rights organisation Defence for Children International (DCI) shows two Palestinian teenagers being killed during a protest in Beitunia. DCI has accused Israeli troops of unlawful killing as it claims the video shows neither boy posed an immediate danger.
I don't side with people who round up other people in concentration camps and I don't side with politicians who side with them either. You side with Cruz and the concentration camp running murderers he supports, I'll stick with folks like DCI. Now you both deserve to be boo'd.
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You keep overlooking the fact that the President of DCI said those people were present and they were the ones booing Cruz - very loudly from what I heard, viewing the clip. There were others who applauded what he said.
And you are overlooking the fact that Cruz wasn't going to ignore those who claim to be for the persecution of Christians in the Middle East only raising their voices on the issue because they are anti-Semitic. He was very well aware there would be radical speakers at the conference. It was to them he addressed his point.
Do you think Ted Cruz would lay his own reputation and political aspirations on the line for no good apparent reason? I would say he would not.
I support Israel as a Democratic ally.
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