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11-12-2010, 01:18 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Isn't it the policy of many nations that you can go to college for free, if you're smart enough to get into that college?
I think this would be the most appropriate way to do things, even here in the USA-- public and private schools alike.
Make college entrance more competitive and give everyone else access to other feasible options where they can still be productive members of our society.
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It isn't free. If you think it is free, that means college may be too difficult for you. You may struggle with concepts.
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11-12-2010, 01:21 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Great post.
I would only say that I think that the private colleges should be able to charge what they wish - they are a privilege, not a right. I think eventually the free market would establish reasonable (whatever that means) prices for private education.
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Schools are open. If you are smart enough, you can get accepted.
Should every one have car payments including those that don't have cars?
It is a right. Should everyone have a car even those that can't afford one?
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11-12-2010, 01:23 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Schools are open. If you are smart enough, you can get accepted.
Should every one have car payments including those that don't have cars?
It is a right. Should everyone have a car even those that can't afford one?
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We're not talking about cars. Are you interested in the discussion or just interested in rambling?
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11-12-2010, 01:28 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Schools are open. If you are smart enough, you can get accepted.
Should every one have car payments including those that don't have cars?
It is a right. Should everyone have a car even those that can't afford one?
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Smart doesn't seem to have anything to do with college, IME.
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11-12-2010, 01:39 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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We're not talking about cars. Are you interested in the discussion or just interested in rambling?
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In over your head?
Good people pay their own way. Whether it is transportation or special education.
If you want something, you can earn money and pay for it.
That includes school.
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11-12-2010, 01:44 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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My kids are some brilliant kids. I have one in college. But I told her years back that she had better work on getting scholarships because I can't afford to send anyone to college.
She did just that. Worked hard and did what she needed to do to qualify for scholarships. She is in college now and has all the scholarships she needs to go to college all four years and she is only $400 per year short of paying for the whole thing (including 2 meal per day meal plan).
I'm happy to cover the $400 per year.  So when she graduates... no loans to pay.
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That is called personal responsibility.
The socialists want the brightest students to share their grades with those that don't produce the work. Make it even and fair.
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11-12-2010, 01:50 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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It isn't free. If you think it is free, that means college may be too difficult for you. You may struggle with concepts.
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If by "free" you mean you don't have to work for it, then I'll agree.
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11-12-2010, 02:07 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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If by "free" you mean you don't have to work for it, then I'll agree.
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Freedom isn't even free. It is hard work to protect freedom.
I had a very high income employee with no children. She and her husband resented seeing extravagant spending on schools and education for people that use those services.
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11-12-2010, 05:08 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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He means it's paid for through the tax system. But, then again, you knew that.
Your yearly school taxes are thousands of dollars? Or is that a lump sum number?
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Yes, the annual amount via property taxes, of which the majority is designated to schools.
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11-12-2010, 09:04 PM
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Re: College Education an Entitlement?
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Or even more. National Merit Scholars and folks with perfect gpa's and high ACT scores do very well.
The problem is we as parents often don't teach kids how to work hard and do good work.
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Chiming in as a student currently in high school: 4.2 GPA, 30 on the ACT, African-American, and college will still be very expensive.
And becoming a National Merit Scholar is near impossible. I have friends who scored in the 98th percentile on the PSAT and still didn't make it.
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