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07-28-2007, 03:51 PM
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Disrespectful Children/Entitlement
Today I overheard a conversation about how a set of siblings had trashed their parents accusing them of all sorts of false behaviors and all because they felt entitled to have their parents go into debt so that they might go to college, not work, take minimum required classes, and party 24/7.
Correct me if I am wrong but I think we are living in the last days: children are disobedient, disrespectful and have a sense of entitlement that I never felt the liberty to have.
Seems to me that parents can't win: if they help their children financially then they accuse the parent of controlling and manipulating them through the use of money and if they don't give them money then they selfish and don't deserve the respect of their children.
The last time I read about this in the word...the Bible teaches children to be obedient and to show honor to their parents that their lives might be long on this earth...No place in scriptures does it teach to only give honor to those you think deserve it.
I am appalled at our children today...who do they think they are?
Does anyone else feel this way?
Sincerely appalled, Rhoni
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07-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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07-28-2007, 04:52 PM
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What a surprise.
All of the women who were supposed to be training this generation to be cheerfully obedient to parents, respectful of elders, and to honor sacrifice, pursued careers instead.
A minimum wage zookeeper at a daycare facility doesn't care whether the precious young'un is trained to be a self-motivated and responsible person. All that matters is that they toe the line. Hence the Ritalin revolution.
It's easy to blame the kids, but the root of this problem is much deeper.
God help America's youth to overcome their childhoods and find Jesus.
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07-28-2007, 05:08 PM
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What a surprise.
All of the women who were supposed to be training this generation to be cheerfully obedient to parents, respectful of elders, and to honor sacrifice, pursued careers instead.
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Careers wouldn't have had to be pursued if men were responsible men and took care of their families as the Bible says! I don't know who you think you are buster but I was crippled, worked a job, went to school and raised my kids while their Daddy was out starting another family not taking care of the family he had.
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A minimum wage zookeeper at a daycare facility doesn't care whether the precious young'un is trained to be a self-motivated and responsible person. All that matters is that they toe the line. Hence the Ritalin revolution.
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Ritalin is the only thing that can help a child pass school, hold a job, and raise a family if they are truly ADHD, but for those children that aren't the parents need to be whipped for not disciplining or feeding them chemical free food!
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It's easy to blame the kids, but the root of this problem is much deeper.
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You can say that again...all through history the children's problems have been blamed on the mother...this is where psychology and I part company and where many controlling Apostolic ministry let the men off the hook!
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God help America's youth to overcome their childhoods and find Jesus.
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They need to find Jesus for sure...and much more!
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07-28-2007, 05:56 PM
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While I agree with Rhoni above, it is true that this end blame rests not upon the children but upon the sorry condition of the home in general. Whose responsiility is that? It is the parents of course. If the parents are too lazy, uncaring, and trifling to not rule their home with an iron hand inside a velvet glove, what else can they expect?
We have lost a generation. I am not sure if we can recapture the spirit that produce "the greatest generation." I am afraid that great spirit is gone forever. As Margret Mitchell might say, "Gone with the wind."
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07-28-2007, 06:28 PM
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While I agree with Rhoni above, it is true that this end blame rests not upon the children but upon the sorry condition of the home in general. Whose responsiility is that? It is the parents of course. If the parents are too lazy, uncaring, and trifling to not rule their home with an iron hand inside a velvet glove, what else can they expect?
We have lost a generation. I am not sure if we can recapture the spirit that produce "the greatest generation." I am afraid that great spirit is gone forever. As Margret Mitchell might say, "Gone with the wind."
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Antagonist,
This is something to think about. I consider it more the spirit of the age. It isn't that parents don't care but when the responsibility of one is let slide then the family is skewed/dysfunctional if you would. We have the Industrialization of the United States, Feminism, Abortion, No-fault Divorce, and the dissintigration of Godly principles in the schools, as well as the home. We also have too many churches and grandparents raising children, and many not taking responsibilites for their behaviors while blaming those around them.
While Scarlett thinks about things tomorrow, and Rhett doesn't give as *&%(, the children are disrespectful, disobedient, and the law of love/God is not in them. There is a point that one cannot blame the parent...when the children are adults they are responsible for their own actions and to blame the parents a cop-out.
Blessings, Rhoni
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07-28-2007, 06:37 PM
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I seeeeee.
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07-28-2007, 06:39 PM
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Honestly its because in America we have so much.Our children are spoiled and feel they deserve certain things.My parents were children during the depression.My dads father died and they worked daily in fields for money
to take home to their widowed mother so they could eat.My mom was
a product of divorce and thankfully was raised by a wealthy family but before
she was taken into their home was about starved to death by a step mother.
She was always thankful for everything given to her.
I saw my dad rise and leave at five every morning to go down and catch
a boat and work as a mine engineer.He did this every week.It put something
in me called a work ethic.God is good we can still train them up and they
will not depart from it.Its funny that people think the training is only in the area of church but its every area.
I was blessed to attend private school,dance lessons,music lessons,karate class
and anything else my heart desired.My dad worked hard to pay for them because he
loved me.I did not feel I deserved them however but always knew they were the
result of my dads hard work.We raised horses and registered dogs and I did my share
of the work plus taught riding lessons all summer.I helped my dad.When he got up
at five I was up getting my boots on to feed all our animals even in winter time.
We have to put a love of the result of responsibility in our children not just a love
of things.
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07-28-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trouvere
Honestly its because in America we have so much.Our children are spoiled and feel they deserve certain things.My parents were children during the depression.My dads father died and they worked daily in fields for money
to take home to their widowed mother so they could eat.My mom was
a product of divorce and thankfully was raised by a wealthy family but before
she was taken into their home was about starved to death by a step mother.
She was always thankful for everything given to her.
I saw my dad rise and leave at five every morning to go down and catch
a boat and work as a mine engineer.He did this every week.It put something
in me called a work ethic.God is good we can still train them up and they
will not depart from it.Its funny that people think the training is only in the area of church but its every area.
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Sister T,
I couldn't agree with you more. My father would work and never even take a vacation. My children have the same work ethic I have and was raised with, unfortunately it is not always so.
If the man does not consider providing for his family more important than being able to take off to go to conferences or hang out with the church folks then his religion is in vain. The Bible states that if a man doesn't take care of his family, he is worse than a thief or an infidel [this means they do not truly believe in God].
I also believe the scriptures talk about the office of Bishop/Pastor/elder: They must be the husband of one wife, have their family in order, and be a good provider before thay can even think of ministry.
Blessings, Rhoni
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07-28-2007, 06:52 PM
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I am in total agreement with you on that one sister.
One of the men in church was talking to use a few weeks
ago.His job requires him to put in alot of hours.I told him
how I felt about my dad sacrificing to provide for me.He
had been concerned about not spending enough family
time with his children.I did not get my dad until he came
home late in the evenings and on weekends when he did
not work but I respected him until the day he died for all
he sacrificed for me.
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