Effective evangelists?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

YOU LIVE IN LOUISIANA!

YOU LIVE WHERE THERE IS FOOD!!!!!!

OK, let me get composed.

Alright, yes, you are correct. Being raised Catholic, also being around staunch Sedevacantists when I was young, when I meet up with them and help them come into the Apostolic faith, I use their Bible. Even Jay Hove Witnesses, I use their Bibles when we bring them in for conversion. With Haitians, Spanish, we let them use their Bibles, because they get understanding faster. The Catholic gets faster understanding because that was the Bible he or she has been using while they were seeking God in the RCC.

I have a copy of the Book of Mormon. I am still waiting to come across some missionaries, because I can teach Oneness, Jesus' name baptism, and the Holy Ghost with tongues straight out of the BOM.

But getting back to catholics, how do you approach the subject of apostolic succession? It seems a very difficult thing to convince someone that what they have believed as THE ONE TRUE CHURCH is really not, at all.

[votivesoul]

When I was leading the Spanish Ministry at my former church, I happily taught Bible studies using my Reina-Valera. God did many great and wonderful things during that time. The Gospel was preached and souls were saved.

The last soul I won to the Lord, a Chinese graduate student, who worked as an intern at my former job, couldn't understand the King James Version, and constantly referred to a Chinese translation. When I shared from my KJV, I paraphrased it into simpler, more modern English. Then she would check her translation.

How awesome it was when, just back in May, that she received the Holy Spirit!

At the Bible studies I teach and have taught, I hope, and I repeat, I HOPE other Bible translations are brought and used. The Spirit moves and instructs when people can see that in their own translation, the truths of God's Word can still be proclaimed. Many pleasant surprises have occurred when I asked "Does anyone's Bible's read differently?"

One merely needs to learn submission to the will of the Father, and He will work it all out to the good. I have found that, as the teacher, the less I try to control and force to happen, the more God can freely operate and move at His own discretion.

[votivesoul]

One young man I won to the Lord had a reading disability and severe ADD. He was able to believe and obey the Gospel without being able to really read and comprehend it out of the Scriptures. He merely believed the truth as it was presented, even though we went all over the place as his mind raced from one thing to the next.

Shortly after he was baptized and received the Holy Spirit, I gladly gave him my copy of the Contemporary English Version, which he was better able to understand. Now the young man stands full of the Holy Spirit and faith, is leading others to Christ, and is healed of his ADD, faithfully reading the Word from newer translations.

[votivesoul]

I remember my former boss, who I taught a bible study to at work on the clock, using her computer and biblegateway.com. We used the New King James Version. She came to church with me that night and repented of her sins, was immersed in the name of Jesus Christ, and received the Holy Spirit, God doing a deep, emotional healing and deliverance.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

When I was leading the Spanish Ministry at my former church, I happily taught Bible studies using my Reina-Valera. God did many great and wonderful things during that time. The Gospel was preached and souls were saved.
The last soul I won to the Lord, a Chinese graduate student, who worked as an intern at my former job, couldn't understand the King James Version, and constantly referred to a Chinese translation. When I shared from my KJV, I paraphrased it into simpler, more modern English. Then she would check her translation.
How awesome it was when, just back in May, that she received the Holy Spirit!
At the Bible studies I teach and have taught, I hope, and I repeat, I HOPE other Bible translations are brought and used. The Spirit moves and instructs when people can see that in their own translation, the truths of God's Word can still be proclaimed. Many pleasant surprises have occurred when I asked "Does anyone's Bible's read differently?"
One merely needs to learn submission to the will of the Father, and He will work it all out to the good. I have found that, as the teacher, the less I try to control and force to happen, the more God can freely operate and move at His own discretion.

I have had similar experiences with the KJV and the Reinas Valera. I read and understand them in their original version, but my words come out in today's vocabulary. Getting to understand the content and context of scriptures is most important.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

When I was leading the Spanish Ministry at my former church, I happily taught Bible studies using my Reina-Valera. God did many great and wonderful things during that time. The Gospel was preached and souls were saved.

The last soul I won to the Lord, a Chinese graduate student, who worked as an intern at my former job, couldn't understand the King James Version, and constantly referred to a Chinese translation. When I shared from my KJV, I paraphrased it into simpler, more modern English. Then she would check her translation.

How awesome it was when, just back in May, that she received the Holy Spirit!

At the Bible studies I teach and have taught, I hope, and I repeat, I HOPE other Bible translations are brought and used. The Spirit moves and instructs when people can see that in their own translation, the truths of God's Word can still be proclaimed. Many pleasant surprises have occurred when I asked "Does anyone's Bible's read differently?"

One merely needs to learn submission to the will of the Father, and He will work it all out to the good. I have found that, as the teacher, the less I try to control and force to happen, the more God can freely operate and move at His own discretion.

Excellent post! Our church family is made up of different languages, but most Spanish and English. When I preached the two Bibles are used, Spanish and English. When Creole speakers are attending service, then Creole or French.

In Haiti some people know French, but most know Creole, there are French and Creole Bibles with those Bible I encourage them read. because if my student doesn't read English well, they certainly are not going to read and understand Elizabethan English. There is no need to watch the frustration of an individual trying to read (and understand) 17th century English (even if English was their birth language) find a translation that they can easily understand. As Brother Burk showed with many different English translations Acts 2:38 is still Acts 2:38, most issues can be dealt with, and as far as the NIV with her missing verses you can still prove one God, and salvation.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

I remember my former boss, who I taught a bible study to at work on the clock, using her computer and biblegateway.com. We used the New King James Version. She came to church with me that night and repented of her sins, was immersed in the name of Jesus Christ, and received the Holy Spirit, God doing a deep, emotional healing and deliverance.

Awesome!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

One young man I won to the Lord had a reading disability and severe ADD. He was able to believe and obey the Gospel without being able to really read and comprehend it out of the Scriptures. He merely believed the truth as it was presented, even though we went all over the place as his mind raced from one thing to the next.

Shortly after he was baptized and received the Holy Spirit, I gladly gave him my copy of the Contemporary English Version, which he was better able to understand. Now the young man stands full of the Holy Spirit and faith, is leading others to Christ, and is healed of his ADD, faithfully reading the Word from newer translations.

Amen, demanding that someone read 17th century English (especially those who fell asleep will learning Shakespeare in school) is unnecessary, and needless. The whole Elizabethan issue mirrors the Roman Catholic Latin issue of the 16th century. KJV onlyism is the twin sister of the Roman Catholic Latin onlyism.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I have a copy of the Book of Mormon. I am still waiting to come across some missionaries, because I can teach Oneness, Jesus' name baptism, and the Holy Ghost with tongues straight out of the BOM.

Mormons are taught from the cradle that all other religions are wrong. Keep in mind Joe Smith's primary reason for starting his group is that he didn't believe the other churches, plus the angel tells him those churches were heretics. Therefore young missionaries look at us like we need the help not them. The missionaries carry around a brick of a book which holds the KJV, BOM, D&C, and POGP. Number one, I just plant seeds with the young missionaries, I had some pray through to the Holy Ghost, one go back to Utah when he finished his mission here in Fort Lauderdale, and make a special trip back to visit us after he was married. Yet, the only way to reach a Mormon young or old isn't debate, they have to be ready, just like any other religion. They have to be seeking, Muslim, Hindu, or Denominational Christianity, a person has to be open. Usually the young missionaries are not open, but looking and waiting to be challenged. They are paired off with more seasoned missionaries, who usually stop the conversation before they loose control of THEIR Bible study.

Originally Posted by Esaias

But getting back to catholics, how do you approach the subject of apostolic succession? It seems a very difficult thing to convince someone that what they have believed as THE ONE TRUE CHURCH is really not, at all.

Same thing as with the Mormons, they have to be open, and comfortable with you presenting to them a new thought. I start by asking questions, as we go through all the questions an open individual will get an epiphany, and then the Bible study really begins. Yet, I'm not looking for 30 minute conversions, I have to understand that attempting to deconstruct an ideology which took years to build, doesn't unravel in 30 minutes of debate or Bible study. So, it takes time, the person has to feel comfortable with you, and again..open to receive.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I have had similar experiences with the KJV and the Reinas Valera. I read and understand them in their original version, but my words come out in today's vocabulary. Getting to understand the content and context of scriptures is most important.

Amen!