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Old 07-01-2008, 08:25 PM
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Re: Sex offenders- prison for volunteering in chur

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When you have not been personally touched by these kinds of crimes it is really easy to forgive and forget I guess. Or if it has not happened to your children or close family members. If not it is easier said than done. And lets not forget the families of the criminals. They are affected also.

So lets say you decide to let them come into your church, do you inform everyone of their pasts or just not say anything? And then if God forbid they rape someone or molest a child what do you say then? What if it is your wife, daughter, sister, mother, or son......?

Granny,I see your point. The thing that bothers me is, Where is the seperation of church and state we hear so much about. The church is to stay out of politics but politics has no qualms about coming into the church. I have a couple friends who are registered sexd offenders. It happened many years ago and was a one time slip up. They have been squeeky clean since.

I think church members should know if a person has been convicted of a sex crime.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: Sex offenders- prison for volunteering in chur

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This may be the new spiritual Jim Crow laws of the 21st century...

Lawmakers want to look tough and know that sexual offenders are the whipping boy that will offend no one.

Everyone likes a good lynching.

We're talking about the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST ... the power of God unto salvation!!!!

Do we believe it anymore?

Absolutely, I believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Whats more, I believe in the POWER of the Gospel which is "the Power unto Salvation". But... with the risks of potential victims, (not to even mention the reputation of the church), I don't believe in throwing caution to the wind. Safeguards must be put in place to minimize the risk to potential victims and to minimize tempation or the occasion to fall by a recovering sex offender. The threat of repeat offenses is there, Bro. Daniel and the risk is minimized by keeping close watch on the recovering offender. The law in question is extreme to say the least. Another "bandaid" on society'e knee to make them feel they are safe and secure. I absolutely do believe in the Power of the Gospel as I do in intensive counseling and therapy. As Spock was known to have stated: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one". I believe a fox can be trained to refrain from eating chickens. I'm just not gonna give him the keys to the henhouse.... unless I am right there to help him to "avoid temptation".
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: Sex offenders- prison for volunteering in chur

Forgive me if I seem hard. 40 years ago almost to the day. He was a repeat offender. In Dallas, Texas the police and the court system were hard on victims back then. Oh well, chalk it up to innocence lost.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:33 PM
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Granny,I see your point. The thing that bothers me is, Where is the seperation of church and state we hear so much about. The church is to stay out of politics but politics has no qualms about coming into the church. I have a couple friends who are registered sexd offenders. It happened many years ago and was a one time slip up. They have been squeeky clean since.

I think church members should know if a person has been convicted of a sex crime.
I find the smiley in your post very offensive given the subject manner.
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Absolutely, I believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Whats more, I believe in the POWER of the Gospel which is "the Power unto Salvation". But... with the risks of potential victims, (not to even mention the reputation of the church), I don't believe in throwing caution to the wind. Safeguards must be put in place to minimize the risk to potential victims and to minimize tempation or the occasion to fall by a recovering sex offender. The threat of repeat offenses is there, Bro. Daniel and the risk is minimized by keeping close watch on the recovering offender. The law in question is extreme to say the least. Another "bandaid" on society'e knee to make them feel they are safe and secure. I absolutely do believe in the Power of the Gospel as I do in intensive counseling and therapy. As Spock was known to have stated: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one". I believe a fox can be trained to refrain from eating chickens. I'm just not gonna give him the keys to the henhouse.... unless I am right there to help him to "avoid temptation".

This is a good message...preach on.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:35 PM
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Re: Sex offenders- prison for volunteering in chur

How many women have had their purses stolen as they stream to pray at the altar? I notice many of them carrying their purses to the front with them.

...trust in God, but tie your horse.

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Old 07-01-2008, 08:36 PM
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How many women have had their purses stolen as they stream to pray at the altar? I notice many of them carrying their purses to the front with them.

...trust in God, but tie your horse.

Gives food for thought to cutting off the hand of thieves doesn't it?
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How many women have had their purses stolen as they stream to pray at the altar? I notice many of them carrying their purses to the front with them.

...trust in God, but tie your horse.

Cneasttx, allow me...

I find the smiley in your post very offensive given the subject manner.




Lighten up dear sister, God is good...
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Gives food for thought to cutting off the hand of thieves doesn't it?
I am all for that...except God would have to give rise for it to grow back when they receive grace.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:38 PM
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Cneasttx, allow me...

I find the smiley in your post very offensive given the subject manner.




Lighten up dear sister, God is good...
I didn't have a smiley in my post ........brother

You did however..........Now can I smile?
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