I have a serious question ?

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Please read first post,i'm talking about true standards in the word not mans.A true holiness preacher holds to true standards.

Got a list of how these are practiced/interpreted ????

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I don't see anything about sleeves in there.

Maybe you can help me out.

I see idolaters... adulterers... drunkards... wrath.... strife... hatred...

All of those things are evil and all of those things are ways of unholiness.

I still don't see any of the standards you are saying we are leaving behind.

i hold to all of these standards.

Sleeves is mans teaching but the word teaches this.1 Peter 3:3: Whose adorning( Dressing) let it not be that outward adorning( Dressing) of plaiting the hair, (Interweaving and knotting of the hair) and of wearing of gold,(Expensive things) or of putting on of (expensive) apparel;

: But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

1 Tim.2:9: In like manner also, that women adorn (Dress) themselves in modest (descent,not extreme) apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

That dude CAN cook can't he?

I asked to please stick with subject,guess you don't know what that means neither.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Hi Everyone,I'm a little new to this forum and have a question for everyone.Please try to stick to the subject because I believe the Church has a serious problem.Please be serious about your answers.

I left UPCI in 1970 but left for greater holiness standards.My question is why do most people who leave let their standards down when the word teaches holiness and with out holiness no one can see the Lord ? Do these people really think they can be saved without obeying the word ? I mean why do they even mess with Church when they will be lost in the end ? Are they really deceived into believing they are really saved ? Do they not study the word for themselves and just let the blind leaders lead them ? I know some UPCI Church assemblies try to put standards of men on people but i'm not talking about mans standards,i'm talking about Jesus and the true apostolic standards as written in the word.Do people really think they can live any life and believe any lie and be saved ?

it's not that people do not have "holiness"....they just define it differently

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Sleeves is mans teaching but the word teaches this.1 Peter 3:3: Whose adorning( Dressing) let it not be that outward adorning( Dressing) of plaiting the hair, (Interweaving and knotting of the hair) and of wearing of gold,(Expensive things) or of putting on of (expensive) apparel;

: But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

1 Tim.2:9: In like manner also, that women adorn (Dress) themselves in modest (descent,not extreme) apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array

I guess all of the kings of Israel are going to hell.
David, Solomon will be the first in line.

If a woman Braids her hair she is going to hell?

And what is expensive clothing? Are we to shop at the thrift store.

But wait! What if I buy a $10,000.00 SUIT for $10.00 is it still costly array?

How much should we spend on clothing?

[COOPER]

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Where ever is it referenced that folks will not enter because of costly clothing or wearing gold and Braiding and cutting hair?

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

So if a life is producing the fruit of the spirit, then that is a holy life?

This is the only way you can have life.Rom.6:[22] But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

[CC1]

Joelel,

If you are so much holiler than everybody else what in the world are you doing using such a medium as the internet? It is filled with filth and evil. I would think you would not touch such a thing so as not to place yourself in a situation where you might be tempted or accidently have evil placed before your eyes.

[berkeley]

Read the first post. Is this another "liberals are going to hell" thread "because they left the old paths.." ????

[berkeley]