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[Trouvere]

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

Everyone makes mistakes and get into financial difficulty. If the church is doing poor financially then it stands to reason that the Pastor will also. The Leadership has the same responsibility that the saints do to practice good stewardship, but they should not be held to any different standard than the rest. We are talking personal finances. Church finances should have an adequate checks and balances system that includes more than the Pastor and his wife!

Blessings, Rhoni

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

The leadership should be an example but we ALL go through financial difficulty at times.

If eveyone paid tithe, the leadership might not have a financial disaster.

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

My pastor and senior pastor give most of their income to the church...what their personal finances are I have no clue...and it's none of my business unless they are misappropriating funds...I trust them they are good stewards!

[whollyHis]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

I heard it taught one time, that this scripture was referring to witnessing. The preacher was stating that we should always share the truth with those whose paths we crossed, and that we should owe no man...*smile*

Just food for thought....

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

I was completely shocked when one day, a UPC pastor of a very large church during a regular, normal service began telling what he would do with the money if he won the lottery.

I couldn't believe my ears. He was going on and on like someone daydreaming..."Well, the first thing I would do is this...then this...and use some for that...then that..."

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

if you are going to use this scripture as the standard, then you dont use a financial disaster as the guide post. If you use this scripture as the guide post for who belongs in the pulpit, then anyone with a mortgage or a car note or if you carry a balance on a credit card disqualifies.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I was completely shocked when one day, a UPC pastor of a very large church during a regular, normal service began telling what he would do with the money if he won the lottery.

I couldn't believe my ears. He was going on and on like someone daydreaming..."Well, the first thing I would do is this...then this...and use some for that...then that..."

well, I grew up with a huge complex. I remember asking my dad what he would do with a hundred thousand dollars.... back when that meant something... he replied without missing a beat, "pay my bills and keep on working."

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

Some finanancial issues should not be judged. Like high medical bills, even when u have insurance. We went through it with our son.

We are not in the pulpit.

But I would not judge my minister.

I would long for the church board to raise his salary.

Nathan Eckstadt

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

If you are going through financial disaster do you still qualify to stand behind te pulpit and preach when the bible says owe no man? Shouldn't the leadership be the example?

If we take that literally they everyone with a credit card might as well not preach. Everyone with a home loan might as well not preach. Anyone making payments on a car should not preach.

Nor does Paul say this is a preaching requirement