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07-01-2015, 09:18 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
If a "no name" saint will dare to teach 1 SFT Bible study a week to sinners, God will open up some doors in their life...BIG TIME!!!
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07-01-2015, 09:48 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Howbout what I mentioned on how to teach the entire bible to a house full of sinners, without having to read a single verse.....
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But they would be reading NIV, NEB, NWT, ESV, CEV, people who LIKE their translations to sound contemporary. They politely tell you that they feel comfortable with their translation choice, maybe even some who use to use old KJV but changed to NKJV, or CEV. What do you do? You let them read?
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This is about creating effective evangelism techniques and firing up sinners to be teachers someday.
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But you make a 17th century English Bible part of that evangelism? While you are going to be evangelizing some people who once used the KJV, and have switched to NKJV, and ESV.
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07-01-2015, 09:49 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Keep in mind the subject of the thread.....we have spent most of our time off the subject(belief systems)
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No, were are on the topic you brought up by saying the Textus Receptus was a foreign source.
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07-01-2015, 09:52 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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It takes me 10 minutes to glance at my stuff(prepare), then go present it, I study as the sinners read to me...the side notes are in my Bible already.
It is perfect for the working/family man to still pull of a HBS a week...
1 Bible study a week equals approx. winning like 15 souls a year if we are consistently teaching...also remember spiritual descendants are involved(big time).
1 teacher can be responsible for 1,000 souls being converted in their lifetime, just by teaching 1 HBS a week!
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But what if the working/family man only uses an ESV? He once used a KJV, but now feels more comfortable in using the ESV, he also encourages his wife, and children to use the ESV. Would you still want him to teach HBS?
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07-01-2015, 09:54 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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If a "no name" saint will dare to teach 1 SFT Bible study a week to sinners, God will open up some doors in their life...BIG TIME!!!
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Will God still open up some doors in their life big time if they are still using NON-KJV Bibles?
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07-01-2015, 10:01 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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That was a deep rebuttal sis...meow
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That wasn't a rebuttal, but an observation.
I've already addressed the flaky argument you present claiming everyone who prophesies is a prophet.
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The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. - Psalm 51:17
Jude 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion , making a difference : 23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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07-01-2015, 10:43 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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That wasn't a rebuttal, but an observation.
I've already addressed the flaky argument you present claiming everyone who prophesies is a prophet.
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Okay, but I showed you a passage here that says they are indeed prophets....
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Now if you can please show me a verse that disqualifies the prophecier from being considered a prophet.(not just your opinion)...Thanks...Meow
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07-01-2015, 10:44 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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The farther the better. 
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Seriously? So, I guess if I were a 6 foot tall man standing in three feet of water, as long as I went down all the way, it would be okay as far as you're concerned? How come I doubt you teach that is acceptable.
Why don't you just admit that you'd actually have to refer to the word baptizo in the Greek to find that it means to be fully immersed??
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The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. - Psalm 51:17
Jude 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion , making a difference : 23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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07-01-2015, 10:47 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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But what if the working/family man only uses an ESV? He once used a KJV, but now feels more comfortable in using the ESV, he also encourages his wife, and children to use the ESV. Would you still want him to teach HBS?
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They can do whatever they want...I just show them the only "quotable" Bible on planet earth(KJV)....If they want to read all those versions and attempt to figure out what the differing meanings are trying to say, a 1 hour lesson can take a lot longer. The 10 week course turns into 15-20 weeks.
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07-01-2015, 10:52 AM
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Re: Effective evangelists?
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Seriously? So, I guess if I were a 6 foot tall man standing in three feet of water, as long as I went down all the way, it would be okay as far as you're concerned? How come I doubt you teach that is acceptable.
Why don't you just admit that you'd actually have to refer to the word baptizo in the Greek to find that it means to be fully immersed??
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I have used it in the past, but, because I dont know other words, intelligent students look at me like I am trying to be something I am not qualified to be...
Like about 20 years ago, there were medical doctors in my HBS in a home of one of them, then I said to them..."doctors say"....about a subject....I felt stupid, and we still laugh about how I said..."doctors say"!!!....LOL
I mean, if you cannot prove your doctrine with the language it is written in...then find more verses...LOL
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