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View Poll Results: Could an AOG saint theoretically be saved?
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Yes, they've obeyed the Acts 2:38 message.
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No, they are trinitarian AOG! Duh!
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Maybe, I'm not exactly sure.
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06-15-2007, 01:59 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
If they don't get into the Word and study and find a Apostolic preacher...
They will bust hell wide!
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Brother, do you think before you make ridiculous comments, such as the one above?
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06-15-2007, 01:59 PM
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Don't ask.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 24,212
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Originally Posted by Timmy
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Think about that Timmy, so it would be impossible to preach the Gospel to the whole world?
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Sorry, you lost me there. |
OK, I get it. You must work ever so hard to get the Apostolic Pentecostal Oneness message out to those folks, to save them from hell. OK, but that's going to take time. Meanwhile, what about the billions who are dying before you get to them? They go to hell, right? Again, my point is that it's all random. Just weird.
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06-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
Posts: 3,611
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
These folks will be saved NOT because they are able to check off all the boxes of the 3-Step plan, but because they have repented and turned their lives over to Jesus Christ. That is the most important thing anyone can do. God can and will lead folks into all truth. All the truth He deems they need. He may NOT lead them into a oneness understanding of the godhead. It is God's responsibility to lead people and give them a revelation of what He wants them to know.
There is no way we can just "work hard" enough for the revelation. It is God who draws, not man who enlightens. It is God who saves, not man who delilvers.
These folks are as saved as a newborn babe and I rejoice in their salvation!!!  |
 Preach It!
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06-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
To believe in the Trinity is not a sin.
Jesus is technically a trinity as you are.
Jesus is One: Son
Jesus is Two; Holy Ghost
Jesus is Three: Father
1x1x1=1 Trinity in position, role, manifestation, etc....
God is the God what ever you call it....there are three things that God is.
Trinity is a word NOT God or Gods.
Most trinitarians do not believe in three Gods.
The Bible says Father, Son, HolyGhost......Threeeeeee!
TRINITY MEANS THREE!
God is trinity in forms or roles or manifestations.
Jesus was the fullness of the God head in Body..
To mis-understand or believe trinity is not sin.
So if some-one believes Acts2;38, obeys gets baptized in Jesus name, filled with
Holy ghost, but still thinks in a trinitarian mode he is going to hell???
This very thing happened to me after I was in the UPC.......
It took a while to get the revelation of One God.......
So Bill........was I in sin and hell bound until I understood One God?????
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While you are right that most trinitarians don't believe in three Gods, they most certainly do believe in three persons in the Godhead, which is contrary to Oneness, that teaches one person in the Godhead.
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06-15-2007, 02:06 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
Yes, but it is for reasons of functionality. I was a member of the F.F.A. 
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The question was can a cow stand on its hind legs. The answer is, yes, a cow can, bulls do it all the time.
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06-15-2007, 02:07 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Texas
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If a person has obeyed the truth why would they want to sit in a church full of false doctrine and listen to a false prophet who is lost.
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06-15-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
While you are right that most trinitarians don't believe in three Gods, they most certainly do believe in three persons in the Godhead, which is contrary to Oneness, that teaches one person in the Godhead.
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True - the two doctrines are very different-- both however miserably fail to comprehend the Godhead... if trinitarians are lost because they are not right about the Godhead....then oneness pentecostals with will be their hell-mates as well.... The doctrine of the Godhead is tougher to understand than most op's give it credit for... I say lean upon Jesus and His cross, and resurrection...
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06-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted
If a person has obeyed the truth why would they want to sit in a church full of false doctrine and listen to a false prophet who is lost.
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06-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted
If a person has obeyed the truth why would they want to sit in a church full of false doctrine and listen to a false prophet who is lost.
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People sit in apostolic churches listening to preachers go on and on over dress standards false doctrine. What's the difference? A lie is a lie is a lie.
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06-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
Posts: 3,611
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Originally Posted by Rico
While you are right that most trinitarians don't believe in three Gods, they most certainly do believe in three persons in the Godhead, which is contrary to Oneness, that teaches one person in the Godhead.
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They just have it backwards.
We see it as One God was devided into three parts like a pie.
They see as Three pies that make one big pie.
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