Obama/GOP Compromise: Bad Deal for Americans - Page 5

sandie · #41 12-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

Typical. Try to justify with "but we pay into them" What a joke. The people in England pay into their programs also.

I'm not justifying anything. You sure don't like the real facts.
I'd like nothing better than for government to shrink and let me keep my own money to pay for my own retirement and health care.

Btw, you might want to notice that the programs in England are getting cut left and right...there does come a time when the government runs out of other people's money.

Sam · #42 12-10-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

I thought you republicans were for paying as you go. It seems all republicans who vote for this mess are simply liars. They ran on "ALL BILLS MUST BE PAID FOR" What hypocrites!!! This bill will add more that 1 TRILLION to the debt.

The Republicans like to chant, "pay as you go" and "no new expenditures without offsetting income or savings" but they apply it selectively. They do not apply it to extending the Bush tax cuts nor to extending unemployment.

I know there are lots of things wrong with unemployment and welfare and some are just playing the system. We have Welfare Departments which are self-perpetuating and who have created generations of Welfare dependent people. But, I can't help but feel that we have an obligation to help the poor and unemployed. I don't have the answers to that. I have heard somewhere that if each church in America would take care of one homeless family we could cover everyone's needs. I don't know how accurate that is.

Light · #43 12-10-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sandie

I'm not justifying anything. You sure don't like the real facts.
I'd like nothing better than for government to shrink and let me keep my own money to pay for my own retirement and health care.

Btw, you might want to notice that the programs in England are getting cut left and right...there does come a time when the government runs out of other people's money.

You sound like coadie are you???

sandie · #44 12-10-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

You sound like coadie are you???

What a stupid question.
On one post I'm a "typical woman" and now I'm a man...
You're a sexist and not worth my time.

Light · #45 12-10-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

The Republicans like to chant, "pay as you go" and "no new expenditures without offsetting income or savings" but they apply it selectively. They do not apply it to extending the Bush tax cuts nor to extending unemployment.

I know there are lots of things wrong with unemployment and welfare and some are just playing the system. We have Welfare Departments which are self-perpetuating and who have created generations of Welfare dependent people. But, I can't help but feel that we have an obligation to help the poor and unemployed. I don't have the answers to that. I have heard somewhere that if each church in America would take care of one homeless family we could cover everyone's needs. I don't know how accurate that is.

I would like to ask all you republicans where are the jobs that the BUSH tax cuts created while Bush was still in office??? The rich just put that money in their pockets then, just as they will with the extension.

I hope the Democrats in the house vote no on this bill. Let all the Bush tax cuts expire. Force the 2011 republican led house to address this issue. Don't give republicans another talking point.

Light · #46 12-10-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sandie

What a stupid question.
On one post I'm a "typical woman" and now I'm a man...
You're a sexist and not worth my time.

I don't think it was stupid. If one hears a quack one assumes their is a duck around.

sandie · #47 12-10-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

The Republicans like to chant, "pay as you go" and "no new expenditures without offsetting income or savings" but they apply it selectively. They do not apply it to extending the Bush tax cuts nor to extending unemployment.

I know there are lots of things wrong with unemployment and welfare and some are just playing the system. We have Welfare Departments which are self-perpetuating and who have created generations of Welfare dependent people. But, I can't help but feel that we have an obligation to help the poor and unemployed. I don't have the answers to that. I have heard somewhere that if each church in America would take care of one homeless family we could cover everyone's needs. I don't know how accurate that is.

Do you feel it's the government's responsibility or the individual?
We as Christians should do everything within our power, starting with framily first, to help. That's a given within the Word of God.
Jesus said we would always have the poor with us, so we're likely to never completely solve the issue.
But, the stewardship issue should and can be resolved.

Jermyn Davidson · #48 12-10-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My fellow Republicans: "There aren't enough jobs! The President should be fired!"

My fellow Republicans: "The jobless don't have jobs because they're lazy! Don't help the jobless!"

Hypocrisy.

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